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matt5112 said:
I lost interest after i saw it was all about a TVS....

Quit being cheap and have a custom intake manifold made that will allow you to run integral intercooling as well.

Also, why would you need to swap blowers?

What cam and heads are you running?
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For someone who lost interest you sure have a lot of... interest!

I want a TVS, it's a better blower.
Stock heads with an XP cam.
 
matt5112 said:
I lost interest after i saw it was all about a TVS....

Quit being cheap and have a custom intake manifold made that will allow you to run integral intercooling as well.
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Screw that just intercool the damn Gen5 he has now get some real injectors and tune the fvckin car right. Im willing to bet the cars pulling timing up top to compensate and make the stock injectors work.
 
98GrandPrixIraqVet said:
Screw that just intercool the damn Gen5 he has now get some real injectors and tune the fvckin car right. Im willing to bet the cars pulling timing up top to compensate and make the stock injectors work.
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You have a point about the injectors to an extent but the TVS is still a better blower. I'll make power similar to fullsized IC cars running GenV's with an XP cam, without an intercooler.
 
Lulz... Time to get some head work done.

And possibly some higher ratio rocker rollers depending on how your heads flow at higher lift.

Also, its amazing you're making that power on stock injectors.

Time for a fuel system upgrade.
 
SnowFlake said:
You have a point about the injectors to an extent but the TVS is still a better blower. I'll make power similar to fullsized IC cars running GenV's with an XP cam, without an intercooler.
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Not with out INJECTORS and a real tune you wont Id love to see a data log of your car VS. the data log of 01gpgt01's car I can almost guarentee you your car is pulling timing up in the RPM to make the stock injectors work!

Injectors alone would make such a difference it makes me cry thinking your worried about the damn SC and not the fuel issue!
 
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98GrandPrixIraqVet said:
Not with out INJECTORS and a real tune you wont Id love to see a data log of your car VS. the data log of 01gpgt01's car I can almost guarentee you your car is pulling timing up in the RPM to make the stock injectors work!

Injectors alone would make such a difference it makes me cry thinking your worried about the damn SC and not the fuel issue!
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I will upgrade the injectors with the TVS... dissect my scan for me. AFR is not the wideband AFR and the temps are in Celsius. I was commanding over 20 degrees of timing as this was a run at the track... it knocked a little up top but after I backed it down to about 17.5 it was fine.
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matt5112 said:
Lulz... Time to get some head work done.

And possibly some higher ratio rocker rollers depending on how your heads flow at higher lift.

Also, its amazing you're making that power on stock injectors.

Time for a fuel system upgrade.
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IMO headwork is more effort and money that doesn't address the issue of the blower sucking!
 
Houston, we found the problem lol. Do you have a wideband or are you referancing the commanded afr? looking at the 02's your lean which isnt accurate anyways, and your MAXED on injectors.
 
SnowFlake said:
I will upgrade the injectors with the TVS... dissect my scan for me. AFR is not the wideband AFR and the temps are in Celsius. I was commanding over 20 degrees of timing as this was a run at the track... it knocked a little up top but after I backed it down to about 17.5 it was fine.
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IMO headwork is more effort and money that doesn't address the issue of the blower sucking!
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INJECTORS!!! Your knocking from frame 70 on up! And look at the A/F from 74 to 78!!

With the injecotrs and knock this is not a safe tune to say the least any knock is bad and your knocking from frame 70 on up.
 


I would like to see a scan of someone running 11psi through a GenV with 42.5lb injectors on 93 pump trying to maintain 20 degrees of timing.
 
Ya I noticed it was right between the 1-2 shift. But it just popped out at me. Given I think you need to get better injectors, and get a solid tune and re-dyno it and see where you sitting. If your not happy, by all means then upgrade the SC but I think you should step it first. Otherwise upgrading SC and injectors at the same time, if there's a complication you won't know which it could be
 


TLSheff said:
Ya I noticed it was right between the 1-2 shift. But it just popped out at me. Given I think you need to get better injectors, and get a solid tune and re-dyno it and see where you sitting. If your not happy, by all means then upgrade the SC but I think you should step it first. Otherwise upgrading SC and injectors at the same time, if there's a complication you won't know which it could be
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Let me clarify some things... I understand that the GenV can make more power given more supporting mods. I understand that my setup is no optimized. I understand that the injectors are working hard and could potentially be a contributing factor to not being able to run 20 degrees of timing on a 3.2 pulley.

This is all fine and dandy however the TVS is still FAR SUPERIOR to the GenV and will allow me to make more power with less engine mods. Then when I start doing more engine mods/IC it will make yet even MORE power vs a GenV.

It's also neat because to my knowledge it hasn't been done yet. Someone here said it was done, but never showed me any links.
 
still why not do injectors and retune to see where your at with the current sc then swap them because your so anti gen5 and saying it will make more hp than your gen5 setup now isnt much considering the tune and injectors fix the issue with the current setup then make more on a tvs would be impressive.

your going to need injectors anyways put them on and retune before you take the gen5 off.
 
98GrandPrixIraqVet said:
still why not do injectors and retune to see where your at with the current sc then swap them because your so anti gen5 and saying it will make more hp than your gen5 setup now isnt much considering the tune and injectors fix the issue with the current setup then make more on a tvs would be impressive.

your going to need injectors anyways put them on and retune before you take the gen5 off.
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I made 300whp on the 3.2 pulley... how much do you really think I'm going to pick up with 42.5ers?
 
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