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Air 2 Air M90 Intercooler Adapter Plate

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seriously, if i were to decide that this car was my project car then i would have at it. that is not that case because it is a FWD V6. ;)

i am looking towards RWD and/or AWD with a turbo in the near future.
 
Reviving a really old thread here......

Did somebody actually make one of these? It's not something I would purchase now, but maybe in the future. I'm very interested to know if this was developed/built.
 


Juanmiguel said:
I think it's cool, but what would be the benefits from A2A over W2A? would it be cheaper or more efficient?
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cheaper? probably, air to air intercoolers are cheap.

more effective? nope. water to air is more effective.

you'd also have major tuning problems and would be forced to tune speed density with no MAF.
 
They've been made, I've seen a few photo's of them, but I dont know tons of info on them. But I belive they are all produced in Australia. It would not be worth the time to mess with one. By the time you get one into the states I'm going to guess it'd be cheaper to buy a full size water to air intercooler and you'd see much greater gains. That's not counting the custom work you'd have to do rework the air to air system to make it work on a w-body.


Edit, Holy Crap I'm blind just noticed this was a 3 page thread. Everything I've already covered has been said in the two other pages I just noticed. haha


With that being said, more power to you if your all about building your own set up. But I dont see much point in it when the intercoolers that you can buy now are great to start with.
 
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air to air is what i see holden guys using but, you have to remember their motors aren't sideways either.
 
I know that this was built in Australia, but I was wondering if the GPF member had produced his own.

For me, the single loop system offers advantages, or peace of mind if you will, because if the W2A unit leaks it will kill your engine. Throw a big enough FMIC on the car and the intake charge will be at near ambient temps.

Lag would be a disadvantage as everybody has mentioned, but it shouldn't be nearly as bad as a turbo.
 


mechguy said:
I know that this was built in Australia, but I was wondering if the GPF member had produced his own.

For me, the single loop system offers advantages, or peace of mind if you will, because if the W2A unit leaks it will kill your engine. Throw a big enough FMIC on the car and the intake charge will be at near ambient temps.

Lag would be a disadvantage as everybody has mentioned, but it shouldn't be nearly as bad as a turbo.
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If your worryed about a leak or a failed intercooler pump why not look into a aeroforce scan gauge? That'd be a hell fire way to keep tab's on knock. If you see a large jump in knock at wot. (IMO any knock) then it's pretty much a no doubt issue that somthing is going on with that car that shouldnt be. Let it be a failed i\c system or some one put cheap gas in the car.
 
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If your worryed about a leak or a failed intercooler pump why not look into a aeroforce scan gauge? That'd be a hell fire way to keep tab's on knock. If you see a large jump in knock at wot. (IMO any knock) then it's pretty much a no doubt issue that somthing is going on with that car that shouldnt be. Let it be a failed i\c system or some one put cheap gas in the car.
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If the manifold mounted heat exchanger bursts/breaks/etc and pisses its fluid into the intake, how would the gauge help?
 


You would know if you cracked a core the smoke show would be awesome. Keep a clear T fill tube. You will know if you leak any. Its pretty much a non servicing system. The pump can be heard from the cabin. Ive been able to tell my pump wasnt on from just tuning over my key. Just like most of us can spot the Fuel pump not priming right away

A2A is more efficent, less boost drop, and can cool well under ambient temps.
 
The guy that was gonna build this has been banned so imma assume he didn't...

And I have never heard one story of a core "breaking"...

Don't mess with the a/a **** man trust us
 
flow indicator would be a good idea.

if flow drops then you know the pumps gone.

if the system fails i can't see it failing dramatically.

Look at heater cores. How often do they burst compared to developing slow leaks.
 
mechguy said:
If the manifold mounted heat exchanger bursts/breaks/etc and pisses its fluid into the intake, how would the gauge help?
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Right, because that happens all the time. If something makes it past the filter, into the t.b, around and around in the blower and then comes out of the blower with such amazing force that even chuck Norris won't stand a chance and destroys your intercooler which then allows half a gallon of water or coolant into your intake it'd be screwed. I think at that point more then enough hell has rained down on to the car that worrying about having a dicked short block as well is not such a big deal. Ive yet to see a damaged ic core in the last 8 years I've been around, so I find this not likely to happen, but I'd like to be proved wrong. So you can tell me Im a retard.
 
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