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UPDATE, pg.2!!! Drivers Door Adjustment? Hinge?

Iron Indian

Iron Indian

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Lately i've noticed the door on my GTP has been sagging a little. Today its sagging a little bit enough to catch the fender on a corner just a little. Its enough to take some action now before I start ruining a major area of paint or bend a fender/door.

I can pulled up and down on my drivers door a good bit, so I know the bushings in the hinge must be shot. My passenger door has 0 play at all, then again its never used and thats to be expected. From looking at the hinges they don't look rebuildable (a pin and bushing kit). It looks like the only way to cure this problem is to replace both hinge assemblies on the door. Is this exactly what I need to do? Anyone do this before? I'm assuming the only good way to do this is pull the front fender. I see no other way otherwise. Anyone know anything?

I kinda know of one other way, but I donno if it would be half assing it or not, IMO it probably is. Body shops have a tool to conect to your door latch and to the stricker plate. The tool has a handle on it and you apply pressure to bend up the door into the desired postion. Any body guys familiar with this and have any input?

The car is a 2-door and it has 160,000+ on it. Hopefully some higher mileage guys have input and can help me out here. There are not too many of us out there.
 
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Re: Drivers Door Adjustment? Hinge?

well the manual showes an adjuster bolt, but its on the body of the car.
after looking at it physicaly, I have to say you need to pull the fender to get to the whole assembly adjuster and all.
 
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I had the same problem right after i bought the car so the dealer took care of it. They told me they just used the bolt. I don't remember them saying anything about pulling the fender. My friends works there and told me what they did. All i can say is fix it quick i waited too long and now i have a little rust i have to take care of from the rubbing:(
 


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the bolt is in the actual hinge assembly, there are the 13mm bolts that hold the hinge on, a small torx that also holds the hinge on and then there is a 10mm torx "cone adjuster". from the way it looks in the book, it looks like the back side is some kinda cam type adjuster.
if anybody can do it without removing the fender do tell. inquiring minds wanna know.
 
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SyntheticShield said:
I moved this one this time, next time I'll follow what is spelled out here:

http://www.grandprixforums.net/f14/a-few-things-for-everyone-read-6828.html
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You'll delete my posts? That kinda sucks IMO. I mean I honestly posted in a forum i thought it would be good in (General is where I think I posted it). IMO it could be posted in the Grand Prix section too. Sorry I didn't post it in a forum you approve of, i'm not a mind reader, sorry dude.

I'm not trying to be a dick, you do a good job keeping the forums straight and all but I think deleting members posts maybe going a bit too far. Peoples opinions where things need to be put can very I think. Thats all i'm saying, i'm not complaining or anything, i'm just giving my 2 cents, that all.

Enough of this, back on topic.....
 
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Iron Indian said:
You'll delete my posts? That kinda sucks IMO. I mean I honestly posted in a forum i thought it would be good in (General is where I think I posted it). IMO it could be posted in the Grand Prix section too. Sorry I didn't post it in a forum you approve of, i'm not a mind reader, sorry dude.

I'm not trying to be a dick, you do a good job keeping the forums straight and all but I think deleting members posts maybe going a bit too far. Peoples opinions where things need to be put can very I think. Thats all i'm saying, i'm not complaining or anything, i'm just giving my 2 cents, that all.

Enough of this, back on topic.....
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Thats why forum descriptions are posted at the top of each section. Ive asked on a few occasions for everyone to pay attention to those descriptions. When that didnt help, I posted a thread about it. When that didnt help, I put into place a set of actions that would be followed if that continued. Sad to say, as in the case of your post, people are still not reading the forum descriptions to make sure their posts are in the correct area, and Ive deleted quite a few already. There is no 'opinion' to be followed on where the posts should go if you read the forum descriptions. With few exceptions, its fairly straight forward if one takes the time to make sure that what they are posting about lines up with the description for that area.

You may think its harsh, but how hard is it to nip it at the source and read the forum descriptions and double check where you are posting?
 
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justwhisen said:
the bolt is in the actual hinge assembly, there are the 13mm bolts that hold the hinge on, a small torx that also holds the hinge on and then there is a 10mm torx "cone adjuster". from the way it looks in the book, it looks like the back side is some kinda cam type adjuster.
if anybody can do it without removing the fender do tell. inquiring minds wanna know.
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I looked at mine today, I can't seem to locate this torx screw. I haven't tried this yet, hopefully next weekend. I betting if that screw exists on the back side of the hinge, you could probably access it with the fender liner removed and a long extension maybe? Guess we'll see. Anyone get to mess with this yet?
 
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SyntheticShield said:
Thats why forum descriptions are posted at the top of each section. Ive asked on a few occasions for everyone to pay attention to those descriptions. When that didnt help, I posted a thread about it. When that didnt help, I put into place a set of actions that would be followed if that continued. Sad to say, as in the case of your post, people are still not reading the forum descriptions to make sure their posts are in the correct area, and Ive deleted quite a few already. There is no 'opinion' to be followed on where the posts should go if you read the forum descriptions. With few exceptions, its fairly straight forward if one takes the time to make sure that what they are posting about lines up with the description for that area.
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I just gave my 2 cents and I think I gave a fairly valid point. On certain things, they could be posted in other forums which you may or may not agree with. I'd hate to see people get screwed over because of this and miss some pretty decent posts, thats all. Its ok to keep things in order, but you don't have to be super anal about it. Thats all i'm saying.

I'm cool with the rules and all and i'm not general a person who fights the man, but some rules need to be tweaked or many will break them unintentional. Thats my point.

I hate to hear we're losing posts like that, its a shame. Oh well, I don't know anything, i'm only a High School Grad...
 


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Iron Indian said:
I just gave my 2 cents and I think I gave a fairly valid point. On certain things, they could be posted in other forums which you may or may not agree with. I'd hate to see people get screwed over because of this and miss some pretty decent posts, thats all. Its ok to keep things in order, but you don't have to be super anal about it. Thats all i'm saying.
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And again, you're missing the point. All it takes is a few seconds to read the forum description. And I dont consider it being 'super anal' when you make posts asking everyone to watch where they are posting, then give advance notice that things would change if the trend continued and even then I still dont delete all I could given the new guidelines, as in your case. Furthermore, its a scaled response taking into account whether you are new here or not.

But again, ALL of this can be avoided by simply taking time to read the forum descriptions. I even take into account if someone says they werent sure.

There are two things to keep in mind:

1. It is the members responsibility to keep current with the rules laid out here.
2. If you read the forum descriptions, you'll most likely post in the right area if you ask yourself does the question I want to ask fit in this section.

Its really that simple.
 
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no. I havent had the time or the gumption to get real involved with my door yet, as I need to replace the roller bushing and all the others, mine hasnt started hitting the sill yet. so yea Im kinda procrastinating.
 
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SyntheticShield said:
And again, you're missing the point. All it takes is a few seconds to read the forum description. And I dont consider it being 'super anal' when you make posts asking everyone to watch where they are posting, then give advance notice that things would change if the trend continued and even then I still dont delete all I could given the new guidelines, as in your case. Furthermore, its a scaled response taking into account whether you are new here or not.

But again, ALL of this can be avoided by simply taking time to read the forum descriptions. I even take into account if someone says they werent sure.

There are two things to keep in mind:

1. It is the members responsibility to keep current with the rules laid out here.
2. If you read the forum descriptions, you'll most likely post in the right area if you ask yourself does the question I want to ask fit in this section.

Its really that simple.
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And... you're missing my point. Things can be posted in certain places where you might think it needs to go or not. Sure everyone watches there posts, thats not a big thing, hell I do that too. But it can be policed too far IMO. Seems like ever other thread I read is you posting "Moved thread, blah blah blah, read this here". I don't mind you moving posts and what not, but deleting things because there not exactly where you like them kinda sucks IMO. I don't think even ClubGP does that, i've never had any problems over there, or any other forums i'm with for that matter.

People are gonna post things in wrong sections, it happens. But everyone is trying there best to post them in the right places too IMO too. Why punish someone for something so simple? I don't see the point. I figure if I take the time to post something (forum material, nothing pornographic obviously) and it gets deleted, I think thats bull****. Simple as that. The whole idea of this forum was to get away from the little ClubGP bull****, why start new bull**** over here?

I just do not agree with deleting posts because you don't like em where there at, thats all.
 
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justwhisen said:
no. I havent had the time or the gumption to get real involved with my door yet, as I need to replace the roller bushing and all the others, mine hasnt started hitting the sill yet. so yea Im kinda procrastinating.
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Cool, let me know if you learn something new! I need to find time to dick with it now. If I learn something helpful, i'll let you and the forum know. Thanks!
 
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Iron Indian said:
Seems like ever other thread I read is you posting "Moved thread, blah blah blah, read this here".
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Exactly my point and why the rules were put in place, to curb that behavior and to cut down on the number of posts that need to be moved.

Iron Indian said:
People are gonna post things in wrong sections, it happens.
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Yes it does, and again, thats why the rule that was implemented is a sliding scale of sorts.

Iron Indian said:
I just do not agree with deleting posts because you don't like em where there at, thats all.
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Thats fine, but thats what the rules are and what I will follow. The information was given in advance before I even started following those rules and everyone had plenty of time to adjust.
 


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SyntheticShield said:
Exactly my point and why the rules were put in place, to curb that behavior and to cut down on the number of posts that need to be moved.



Yes it does, and again, thats why the rule that was implemented is a sliding scale of sorts.



Thats fine, but thats what the rules are and what I will follow. The information was given in advance before I even started following those rules and everyone had plenty of time to adjust.
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And the rules can be tweaked a little more. This is a GP forum, not a damn country. I think things should be reconsidered. Rules can be changed, thats not an impossible task IMO. You act like we're dealing with the 10 comandments or something.
 
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Iron Indian said:
And the rules can be tweaked a little more. This is a GP forum, not a damn country. I think things should be reconsidered. Rules can be changed, thats not an impossible task IMO. You act like we're dealing with the 10 comandments or something.
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Or we can go back to the really simple way to avoid it all and just pay attention to where you post. We can debate the rules until the cows come home, but they are what they are an it is how it is and the simple solution, again, is just to pay attention to where you post. The fingers can be pointed wherever one wants to point them but it ultimately comes down to the one making the post, as it is their responsibility to ensure its in the right place and its as simple as that.
 
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Did anyone ever figure this one out? I just noticed this past week that my driver door has a bit of play and would like to fix it before it gets worse. I figured the hinges would have to be replaced since there is no pins and bushings but it would be awesome if there is another option!
 
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