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Suggestions for a good gun to buy.



scottydoggs said:
id have to say you cant argue with real world experience.

lets face it, most who carry will never (lets hope) have to draw their weapon. and most have never had a reason shoot another person on the attack. stopping power is what its all about.

thanks for securing all of our freedoms as well.
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I agree most won't and I would like to hope no ever would. That's my point is a .40 will have more stopping power then a 9MM and if you have to draw it you want to eliminate the threat with one or two shots not an entire magazine
 
im just curious if you tried shooting the .45 before deciding on the .40. I had a springfield xd 40 full size as my first ccw and after trying the 45 found that the recoil was much more manageable. I prefer the xd to any glock as the xd fits in my hand better. the recoil of the 40 was more of a snap where the 45 was like a push so it was a lot easier to keep the gun on target. my wife carries a ruger lcp but she dosent like it as much as she likes my 45 because the lcp is not near as accurate. if you do carry a concealed weapon I strongly reccomend to study up on your states local gun laws and to be highly proficient with your weapon. also a 22 lr is the worst possible gun to carry concealed, yes its better then nothing but anything is better then a 22.
 
I've been hearing good things about .32 as a nice compromise on size/weight, recoil, report, and stopping power. Any one ever compared it to .40 or .45?
 
The reason cops use a smaller caliber, is because they usually dont hit the target or it takes numerous rounds to stop a person.
(they need the extra rounds to be able to hit the target) If they carried a .45 most of them would have to reload.

Depending on the which UCR you look at, its something like 1-10 rounds hit target( with so called trained police). When those rounds do hit weather it be a 9 or 45 the stopping percent is something in the 90% range with a small percentage going to the 45.
Typical engagement range IIRC is 3-5 feet.

A pistol lacks the ability for "knock down" the only way to drop someone with one shot with a pistol is to hit them in the eye/nasal cavity(about the size of a playing car) or severing their spine in the neck.
Even if some wacko is drugged out and raged out, shooting them in the heart, will take approximately 15 seconds to bleed out. Thats alot of time for them to shoot back or mess you up.
This is also why you hear of police shooting(excessively) Think of 2 cops shooting until the threat stops, how many rounds would it take for my listed conditions to be met in panic situation.

The best gun to carry is the one you are comfortable with. The gun you know you can make a shot count with.
With that said, shoot a few before you settle on one. A 45 depending how large you or your hands are can be comfortable to shoot. But are hard to conceal or a pain to carry.

The MRs is going with a 9mm all 5'3 of her. She also shoots skeet/trap with a 12 gauge tho!

OP, i think you are on the right track with the .40 as if i were to carry every day would probably choose that as well.
 


The reason most police use a smaller round is cause they're pussies and the smaller calibers are in smaller frames which fit more people. The reason the 10mm was phased out of departments was mainly because some people couldn't withstand the recoil. There are high capacity autos in .45 and 10mm, my 10mm Tanfoglio holds 15 rounds. Capacity isn't a valid argument. A lot of departments in big cities still issue ball ammo too... it's not very good at doing much but pissing someone off unless you hit a vital organ. Be sure to use good hollow point ammo and try it in your gun... some guns don't like certain ammo/bullet profiles and it may jam them. 1911s can be very finicky about this.
 
the best advice I ever received was to go to a range that had rental guns and try out several see which fit your had the best and you were comfortable shooting. a .32 acp is fine for concealed carry. the beretta tomcat is a good weapon.
 
My Springfield xd9 rides by my right leg in the gtp everywhere I go. The ex has my s&w bodyguard .38 special. I know my 9 isn't the best for knockdown but if I gotta shoot someone I figure on making sure their dead when I do. I told the ex (she was the gf then) if she feels threatened enough to shoot someone wait to shoot them til their an arm length. And pull the trigger till th gun goes click. I'd have rather had a .40 but I shoot alot recreationally and the 9mm ammo is so much cheaper.

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Got the certificate so I should have the CCW soon hopefully. Almost time to do some shopping. *grown up toys*

Thanks everybody for the insight, definitely gave me a better understanding of what to look for.
 
im not going to pretend that i know if you have a gun permit at all at this point and time. but my brothers permit took almost a year to get, this is just a permit, not a cc lic. thats just how long New York state took to do all of its back ground checks.

if you at least have a gun permit things may roll faster, but i really have no idea if that helps speed things up or not. he was told 3 months, by the police station, and like i said it took almost a year. hes now up to 4 guns lol

i held his 357, that gun fits my hand like a glove, cant wait to shoot that one lol
 


scottydoggs said:
im not going to pretend that i know if you have a gun permit at all at this point and time. but my brothers permit took almost a year to get, this is just a permit, not a cc lic. thats just how long New York state took to do all of its back ground checks.

if you at least have a gun permit things may roll faster, but i really have no idea if that helps speed things up or not. he was told 3 months, by the police station, and like i said it took almost a year. hes now up to 4 guns lol

i held his 357, that gun fits my hand like a glove, cant wait to shoot that one lol
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It used to take 2 or 3 days in Texas after doing the paper work. I don't know about now 'cause that was about 6 years ago.
 
Im not a fan but I always suggest glocks for new pistol owners. They really are great handguns. Low recoil, affordable, reliable, tac drivers. Check them out. Most rental pistol ranges have them. As a matter of fact, i havent been to one that doesnt have a glock to rent.
 
Rico said:
It used to take 2 or 3 days in Texas after doing the paper work. I don't know about now 'cause that was about 6 years ago.
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NY's pretty tough to deal with. NYC zero gun ownership, at all. unless its a antique. the rest of the 4 boughs allow long guns for hunting. when you hit long island you can get pistols and long guns.

NJ is like long island for the most part. and i looked up how to go about getting just a pistol permit, not a carry permit, and it was pages and pages of crap, you need to find out and document, every encounter you ever had with law enforcement. good or bad.
 
My friends from NYC, and he tells me how hard it is to get one there..

Here you just have to take the classes, get some class time, and some gun range hours under your belt and you get the certificate. Then you go apply for the CCW. Takes 2-3 weeks depending on the county. It's that easy here in MI.
 


If your looking for self defense and wanting to carry it on you daily, then I would say a Kahr CW. They come in 9, .40, and .45. They are small and slim but you're still able to get a full grip on it. They can be found for $370-400. I own the .40 caliber and love it. I carry it on me all the time with an in the pants holster and no one ever notices I'm carrying it.
 
scottydoggs said:
im not going to pretend that i know if you have a gun permit at all at this point and time. but my brothers permit took almost a year to get, this is just a permit, not a cc lic. thats just how long New York state took to do all of its back ground checks.

if you at least have a gun permit things may roll faster, but i really have no idea if that helps speed things up or not. he was told 3 months, by the police station, and like i said it took almost a year. hes now up to 4 guns lol

i held his 357, that gun fits my hand like a glove, cant wait to shoot that one lol
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Its posts like these that make me happy I live in Texas. Walk in to a gun store and with in 15 minutes you are walking out with a gun.
 
once you have a permit you can walk in buy a gun, and walk right out, you need to take it to the police station with in 10 days to register it with them.
 
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