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Gadaffi - Was Bored...

so today over lunch, my mom's mom explained to me how Gadaffi is the anti-christ (with the whole middle eastern wearing a tunic end the world guy) and that i should get right with God because the end is near because he is going to blow us up because we froze his assets.

granted it kinda scared me, i tried to blow it off on the way home, and then i seen a bill board on the interstate saying "Got Jesus?" as a church advertisement. so i was like well damn...

What do yall think about this here philosophy?
 
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idk but i hope we take military action against him. i cnt afford gas :( i drive 12 miles one way to work making 7.25/hour. somethin tells me high gas prices are gonna affect me

You just pissed me off, we gotta let them duke it out...people like you are the reason why the world hates americans..
 


You just pissed me off, we gotta let them duke it out...people like you are the reason why the world hates americans..

my apologies, sincerely. by all means, i didn't mean to offend anyone. i just think he is a really dangerous person who needs to be dealt with for the safety of all people.
 
dont worry. cia has plenty of people with briefcases with cash for those rebels. thats how they get sponsored man. behind the screen by urs truly. thats what they did in iran a while ago, thats what they tried in iran with hussain, then his generals (didnt work, country wasnt ready for an open rebellion).

besides, who sold gadaffi all the damn sh1t he has? he got his planes from EU countries, half his armory is full of EU and US weapons. Everyone armed him cuz he wasnt a threat. Now that people see wtf hes doing, theyre calling him out even tho they sold him all his ****.
 
It's too bad Reagan never took him out.

And gas is going up for the same reason it went up last time, the stupid ass speculators that find any reason they can to make more money. Mideast tension? Raise prices. Hurricane? Raise prices. We have an infintie source of oil that will never run out? Screw it, let's raise the price.

I wish I was in on it....Would be nice to be a billionaire making a ton of cash while people like me have to spend the first 3 hours of their shift just making enough to pay for the trip to and from work.
 
Oh dood, the money isnt in just fear. Guess how much international contractors will get for rebuilding those countries? Billions of dollars there at stake.
 
Its not just you, the whole american ideal is that we need to stick our noses in where it doesnt belong, im from the back woods, when someone has an issue with someone, you let them 2 deal with it, not have a middle man trying to solve their issues...and as far as civil war...bring it, got over 20,000 rounds of ammo sittin in my house waiting for a situation like that to arise...if we keep getting presidents like obama, civil war's gonna happen
 


Hybrids are still a joke IMO, And it pisses me off people want the president to do something now when everyone flipped out when we went after Saddam!! I dont think we should do a damn thing. After the whole Egypt thing, Before that it was Iran and Korean people getting pissed off at their own gorvernments. People have been deprived for too long by their own governments! More and more countries are going to start doing this especially when they see the results from Egypt and Libia. Iran almost turned into a civil war last time they had an election. Wait and see only more and more countrys are going to start seeing this especially when their governement takes everything from the people..............Hmmm doesnt that sound like where our country is headed? Governement should not have control over everything!!!
 
100% agree with you, whether or not i misinterpreted what was stated, look im just about as pro military as you can get, but you cant just throw troops into places that need to settle their own disputes...i liked what i say in egypt, i hope to see that in libia...as far as where our county is going, i've been saying that for awhile now...nonetheless **** needs to change world wide
 
Gas prices have been going up since the first recent rebellion in Tunisia, then Egypt, and now Libya.. along with civil turbulence in a handful of other countries that has the oil speculators saying that they're "unsure" of the availability of oil in the near future (There was even a wave or two in Saudi Arabia that made some people uncomfortable/sweat a little and that did a bunch to help give them reason to start jacking up).

There's a pretty sizable oil port in Libya that's completely shut down and at 0% output, with all of their storage tanks full to capacity.

..On the subject of the US and other countries being involved.. I definitely like the fact that the US (my country) has been keeping out (atleast on the main stage) of these events... sure the officials are making public statements and such, but I mean as far as not becoming militarily involved or making direct threats.

However, someone likened this situation to that of Iraq, and I feel that wasnt quite appropriate. The reason people got mad about Iraq was because the United States went into that country against the will of the UN. There were lots of major nations opposed to us doing that. While in this situation, the UN is considering action of it's own, so if the US does get involved somehow, it will probably be accompanied by other UN nations and the support of the international community.

I do see some reflections of Iraq in this situation though, because I believe that what has happened in Iraq helped to set off these events. After decades of dictatorship, the Iraqi people are having open elections... all these other countries living under dictators saw that, and began to think... if they can do it, why cant we?

So people living under these brutal rules got angry and started to ask questions out loud and make demands, and when the government attempted to put them down, more people got angry.. and it grew, first in Tunisia... then the Egyptians saw Tunisia and asked "Why not us?"... then Libya followed suit.
 


Gas prices have been going up since the first recent rebellion in Tunisia, then Egypt, and now Libya.. along with civil turbulence in a handful of other countries that has the oil speculators saying that they're "unsure" of the availability of oil in the near future (There was even a wave or two in Saudi Arabia that made some people uncomfortable/sweat a little and that did a bunch to help give them reason to start jacking up).

There's a pretty sizable oil port in Libya that's completely shut down and at 0% output, with all of their storage tanks full to capacity.

..On the subject of the US and other countries being involved.. I definitely like the fact that the US (my country) has been keeping out (atleast on the main stage) of these events... sure the officials are making public statements and such, but I mean as far as not becoming militarily involved or making direct threats.

However, someone likened this situation to that of Iraq, and I feel that wasnt quite appropriate. The reason people got mad about Iraq was because the United States went into that country against the will of the UN. There were lots of major nations opposed to us doing that. While in this situation, the UN is considering action of it's own, so if the US does get involved somehow, it will probably be accompanied by other UN nations and the support of the international community.

I do see some reflections of Iraq in this situation though, because I believe that what has happened in Iraq helped to set off these events. After decades of dictatorship, the Iraqi people are having open elections... all these other countries living under dictators saw that, and began to think... if they can do it, why cant we?

So people living under these brutal rules got angry and started to ask questions out loud and make demands, and when the government attempted to put them down, more people got angry.. and it grew, first in Tunisia... then the Egyptians saw Tunisia and asked "Why not us?"... then Libya followed suit.

so you would say high gas prices boil down exactly to the spectators making a big stink about "availability" of oil and used it to jack up the prices?

also, i think it IS good that "democracy" (the reason its in parentheses is because we do not have a true democracy, we have a republic, like it or not) is spreading in the middle east. i just think we need to get over the hump of everyone saying "hey we can do that". though it's not always pretty, the end goal in mind is very peaceful. no one can argue that democracy spreading, or at least dictatorships/communists falling out of power, is a bad thing. granted, however, Iraq may not have been the best choice because i think it was a rash, hasty decision made based on fear of nuclear power.

and lastly, i would like to make the point based on what you said that i think if ANY thing else goes on in the middle east, we MUST be accompanied by the UN and other nations because if we do not, it will cause many more problems.
 
..bring it, got over 20,000 rounds of ammo sittin in my house waiting for a situation like that to arise...

where exactly in new york do you live? i can fire a gun

..On the subject of the US and other countries being involved.. I definitely like the fact that the US (my country) has been keeping out (atleast on the main stage) of these events... sure the officials are making public statements and such, but I mean as far as not becoming militarily involved or making direct threats.

we're there.. weve been there for awhile
 
Originally posted by brandonl2000 so you would say high gas prices boil down exactly to the spectators making a big stink about "availability" of oil and used it to jack up the prices?
Im not saying that's ALL, but in this specific situation, it's a driving force... when speculators say "jump", the pumps say "how high?" ..again that's obviously really simplified and not every situation. Also like it's been said, these guys will look for any excuse to pack in a few extra pennies.

also, i think it IS good that "democracy" (the reason its in parentheses is because we do not have a true democracy, we have a republic, like it or not) is spreading in the middle east.
Yeah, a lot of people don't get that, a democracy operates by direct votes by the people... we are a republic because we operate through "representatives" to be technical we're a Democratic Republic. I just used democracy as a general term, as people (sometimes mistakenly) make it synonymous with "freedom"... and that's really what the people in the middle east are looking for in a democracy... less iron fisty, more freely free free :p.

granted, however, Iraq may not have been the best choice because i think it was a rash, hasty decision made based on fear of nuclear power.
I agree with that, looking back Mr Bush could have definitely gone about the plan better, all I meant when I referenced that was that A) Someone has mentioned this turning into another Iraq, and I just wanted to say why I think it wont (because of actual UN involvement in this situation). and B) Just because, at the moment things are going half decent over there, atleast as far as the dismal days of raiding Fallujah and the like made it appear.

and lastly, i would like to make the point based on what you said that i think if ANY thing else goes on in the middle east, we MUST be accompanied by the UN and other nations because if we do not, it will cause many more problems.
I completely agree with this, nothing else to be said. :)
 
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