Cleans Official Retrofit Thread. Pictures of Work.

[cleangtp]

I've really been thinkin about retrofits. The $250 to have you do them + materials really isnt bad like some think it is.

If you have never done one I will "almost" guarantee you that you will not be happy and do it over. So right there's a set of headlights if you fubar things up.

I don't charge extra to custom paint shrouds however I do charge for your paint depending on what you decide you want done to them. I had a day or so in just the shrouds before I called them acceptable.

The flat $250 labor fee is dirt cheap in my opinion, also Matt's opinion at TRS. He said that's very reasonable for a true bi-xenon setup and the work that goes into a retrofit on a 97-03 housing. The Morimoto H1 projectors are small, the shrouds are not, they simply don't fit and to get the rotation right the shrouds have to be cut right to fit that deep into the housing. The housing gets narrow the farther back the projector sits. You don't want the projectors sitting to close to the lense for 2 reasons. One it will melt the lense on the capsule. Two the farther forward the projector is you lose height adjustment and the ability to use your adjusters to desired height.

Stuffs not free rtv to seal corners, back of capsules, and any low spots in the oci butyl tape. Foil tape to cover the projectors open areas so no ugly light escapes in your headlight capsule. Cutting bits, sand paper, oci butyl tape, paint etc. etc.... There's really no reason I should have to pay for supplies to do somebody's retro for them however I only charge for supplies I do not have available.

Also the flat $250 includes return shipping back to the customers residence out of my pocket. I will continue to leave this the way it is for the next month for any new customers but will be thinking about charging return shipping since Ohio to Cali would be a considerable amount in shipping charges for someone elses headlight.

I had the better part of 5-6 days in this set and I don't mean work on them for 15 minutes and go do something else. I'm talking 5-6-7hrs per day. I was on vacation this week so this allowed me to get these done in a respectable amount of time for the custom work that was asked of me. Anyone can throw a retro together in 4 hours will it look like mine, I highly doubt it. I back my work, guarantee your capsules will not leak. I do not warranty sealing corners because imo they're all pretty much junk and leak. I do my best to keep this from happening and have not had anyone email or pm me saying their corners are leaking. I appreciate the business a lot!

 

[PurpleGuy]

This is EXACTLY what i'm talkin about. I don't wanna have to deal with all that crap. 250 bucks is NOT bad at all, rather generous for the amount of time it seems you put into them and how excellent they turn out.

 

[cleangtp]

This is EXACTLY what i'm talkin about. I don't wanna have to deal with all that crap. 250 bucks is NOT bad at all, rather generous for the amount of time it seems you put into them and how excellent they turn out.

Thank you 4th gen, most think it's alot but really it's not at all.

It's a custom bi-xenon headlight setup with REAL projectors. IMO going with an ebay projector headlight is a big waste of money for all the cons that are associated with them. Breaking headlight brackets, bouncing issues, no true hi beam (which means you also need 4 ballast just for the headlights) and the hi beam doesn't do anything. Some have even had leaking issues some have not, it's hit or miss. A retro is worlds better than any ebay headlight you will ever buy. I love mine, almost tempted to keep rojo's since my cars red too :th_laugh-lol2: jk

All you need for the retro is....
$120 pair of mori H1 projectors
$25 pair of mini gatling gun shrouds
$30 9007 TRS bi-xenon relay harness
$35 ddm hid kit or if you want to spend a little more the slim ballast kit

$210 in parts buys you a retro prices exlude shipping of course. If you contact Matt at TRS he will get you all setup he's a hell of a guy. Do him a favor if you're contemplating a retro go to (theretrofitsource.com) and get your parts or simply call him at (614) 653-3451, best customer service you will ever deal with. Save him ebay fees and order parts directly from site or phone.

The labor rate will never go down for me to do them, just to much cost and time in them to be worth doing them for any less. Most people waste a lot of money, if you want them done by me, correctly ,simply save your money up, may take a little longer but it's worth it in the end!!!!!!!

 

[cleangtp]

Headlights shipped Rojo..... check your pm's

 

[chunky]

it's worth the cost, this guy's work is second to none. once you drive with them once you'll hate anything else.

nice work clean, can't wait to see them finished up and installed. i wish my shrouds where black to match EVERYTHING else being black, but the chrome makes it look like evil eyes, they even seem to glow during the day then the car is off.

 

[sdavis11b]

I got a question, the Morintmo Projectors are Bi-Xenon, would you HAVE to have a Bi xenon bulb to run it? or can you just use the harness+projector with a regular HID bulb.

 

[cleangtp]

I got a question, the Morintmo Projectors are Bi-Xenon, would you HAVE to have a Bi xenon bulb to run it? or can you just use the harness+projector with a regular HID bulb.

Nope they take single beam H1 bulbs and 9007 bi xenon relay harness. The cutoff shield inside the projector creates your hi beam the bulb doesn't actually get brighter. With low beams on the shield is up blacking half the light. When you select hi beams the shield drops down giving the projector the ability to put out maximum light.

 

[sdavis11b]

Thanks buddy, oh and you should start doing work on 04+ Headlamps.

 

[cleangtp]

it's worth the cost, this guy's work is second to none. once you drive with them once you'll hate anything else.

nice work clean, can't wait to see them finished up and installed. i wish my shrouds where black to match EVERYTHING else being black, but the chrome makes it look like evil eyes, they even seem to glow during the day then the car is off.

They're finished and on their way to rojo, he said he would comment after he see's them and post pictures installed on his red car. I would've liked to keep them for my car they look pretty sick imo.

So the retro I did for you is still good to go no moisture in housings or any problems so far? Sure hope not, ran into a bi-xenon solenoid problem on one of rojo's projectors. These mori's are awesome for the price no doubt once you put them on a gp you'll never go back.

I actually think I'm going to finally break down and do a retro for my wife on her Honda. Everytime I turn on my headlights I gotta hear, "why can't I have headlights like that" :th_laugh-lol2:

 

[cleangtp]

Thanks buddy, oh and you should start doing work on 04+ Headlamps.

I would if I had an 04+ to test fit them on, however I don't. I can't send lights out that I can't check rotation on really. I can't gurantee them in any way other than not leaking. Neighbor has an 05 gp but no hid and I doubt he'd want me messing with his headlights everytime I needed to test fit.:th_winking:

 

[PurpleGuy]

Just go to the local junkyard and tell them you need the whole front half of an 04+ GP. I'm sure they'll understand lol.

Just a quick question. Have you every used 55W bulbs?

 

[chunky]

They're finished and on their way to rojo, he said he would comment after he see's them and post pictures installed on his red car. I would've liked to keep them for my car they look pretty sick imo.

So the retro I did for you is still good to go no moisture in housings or any problems so far? Sure hope not, ran into a bi-xenon solenoid problem on one of rojo's projectors. These mori's are awesome for the price no doubt once you put them on a gp you'll never go back.

I actually think I'm going to finally break down and do a retro for my wife on her Honda. Everytime I turn on my headlights I gotta hear, "why can't I have headlights like that" :th_laugh-lol2:

they do have moisture issues, i still haven't been able to track it down yet

 

[cleangtp]

they do have moisture issues, i still haven't been able to track it down yet

On the corners or housings themselves? I used rtv to seal your capsules not oci butyl tape if I remember right. I also sold you the complete retro for $200 since it one of the first few I did right? Cant really remember it's been so long ago.

 

[cleangtp]

Just go to the local junkyard and tell them you need the whole front half of an 04+ GP. I'm sure they'll understand lol.

Just a quick question. Have you every used 55W bulbs?

I use 35 wt kits but I' may go to a 55 wt kit in my hid fogs if I end up purchasing the glass lensed foglights.

 

[Tommyp2010]

Just go to the local junkyard and tell them you need the whole front half of an 04+ GP. I'm sure they'll understand lol.

Just a quick question. Have you every used 55W bulbs?

Don't use 55w bulbs in the mini H1s. They create too much heat due to the small reflector bowl design, and will ruin the projector

This pic is after a full year of 55w. The bowl is supposed to be nice and smooth, here you can see the chrome bubbling and flaking off.

also 55w in foglights is bad if you want to see in the distance at night. More foreground light kills distance vision at night. The minis already have too much foreground light.

 

[cleangtp]

Don't use 55w bulbs in the mini H1s. They create too much heat due to the small reflector bowl design, and will ruin the projector

This pic is after a full year of 55w. The bowl is supposed to be nice and smooth, here you can see the chrome bubbling and flaking off.

also 55w in foglights is bad if you want to see in the distance at night. More foreground light kills distance vision at night. The minis already have too much foreground light.

Thanks for the info there that looks pretty nasty. What type of bulbs were used, morimoto bulbs are supposed to be a cooler running bulb I wonder if those would do that too. Over time I guess they still probably would end up ruining the bowl like that. Guess that's why it says 55wt kit not recommended on the trs website.

I get what you mean by to much foreground light never thought about that. Just figured since the fogs were so low it wouldn't be a problem. I will stick with 35wt fogs. I actually blew something in my hid fogs dealing with rojo's non functioning bi-xenon solenoid so that's the only reason I was considering a higher wattage kit. My hid fogs are bright but they light up the ditches don't really do anything for seeing down the road anyways... I dunno

Here's a link to the glass lensed foglights for the 97-03 grand prixs, no more melting lenses imo...

AUTO DOT, SAE APPROVED NEW ROUND Fog Light Driving Lamp | eBay

 

[PurpleGuy]

Damn those are $50 a piece. But they're glass and can hold up to the heat. Might have to invest in a set of those. My plastic ones are purdy ugly lookin lol.

 

[cleangtp]

Damn those are $50 a piece. But they're glass and can hold up to the heat. Might have to invest in a set of those. My plastic ones are purdy ugly lookin lol.

Yeah they're pricey but why buy new plastic when it's only $20-$30 more for the glass lenses. I don't know for sure if they're glassed lensed, I've inquired to the seller. It's listed a glass lense but that doesn't always hold true dealing with some sellers.

My plastic lenses haven't discolored or melted due to the hid at all in probably almost a year. Not sure why some people have them melt on them. If anything you could use a rubber washer grommet to space the bulb back farther from the lense.

I think I'm going with morimoto 4300k in my fogs when I do finally replace them. I called DDM Tuning today and the guy I talked to was kind of an azzhole. I told him my relay harness fuse isn't blown. The relay on the actual harness may be though. He told me to use the spade connectors instead of the harness to check the ballasts. I put different bulbs in they didn't fire. He did give me an RMA# to return the ballast but I had to fight with him to get it and he was very rude.

 

[PurpleGuy]

I want them more so because mine are old and kinda "scruffy" lookin. They look like they've been sanded with a high grit sand paper. Like 1500 or something. Just enough to keep the surface from being shiny. Nice glass lenses would help the front end a little bit, and improve the light output at the same time, double win.

 

[SeanGTP]

So question, if you already have a 9007 HID setup, with a relay harness, and decide to do a retrofit, once all that is said and done, do you need anything else other than new bulbs?