Re: 1997 Black GTP, The Final Project.
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1997 Black GTP - Soon To Be Thumping.
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theaceofspades
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1997 Black GTP, The Final Project.
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DanPrixGTP
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Re: 1997 Black GTP, The Final Project.
Update time, kinda.
Last week I went to Josh's house to get my car tuned. Car pulls hard with the setup. We tuned for about 4 hours straight, in 90* weather, beating the sh1t out of it. Engine and trans were both around 200 degrees, completely heat soaked and we couldn't get the car to knock at all, which is great. Running an 11.1 AFR @ WOT with 14* timing. At 15* timing the car sees about 2 degrees of KR but I'd rather be KR free. With a Gen V on a 3.4 at the top of second, right before the shift, the car sees 10.5ish psi. So the car is flowing very well.
Started to attempt my own body work. First time ever, so this all is a learning process.
This was before:
Really had to get this metal covered up before it started to rust. Made the huge mistake of taping off the surrounding area, so there is a tape line now, but not to concerned at this point, just looks better than before:
Then started working on the gas cap area. It started to rust again, and lots of bubbles underneath it. Don't have a before picture, but it looked nasty. This time I tried to blend. Came okay for my first time, and body work isn't easy to get to look perfect. I can see why it's expensive.
Taped off just the area for the primer:
Attempting to blend:
What it looked like with overspray all over the fender, before wet sanding:
Lots of wet sanding and buffing, this is how it turned out. Like I mentioned before, wasn't even close to perfect, but looks better than rust and bubbles:
Also fixed up around the wheel well, rear drivers side as it was missing paint and rusting:
Then started working on repainting the Front Air Dam, as that was in awful shape:
Primed:
Just the black painted:
Working on the silver middle part, used the stock color code for this, WA8945:
Cleared:
Car without Front Air Dam:
Quick mock up with the Air Dam back on before wet sanding:
Wet sanded and buffed the Air Dam, isn't quite as "shiney" as I'd like it too, but still looks much better than before. It's ready to be installed again, but I'm leaving for an Alaskan Cruise tomorrow morning for a week. Which also means I'll be missing the big meet in detroit, which really sucks, but this is a once in a lifetime trip I got for free.
All in all, I'm not too upset with my first time body work job. It's pretty difficult to blend the paint and have it look perfect. Everything was done with my finger and a rattle can as well. So can't be too upset with how it came out.
Update time, kinda.
Last week I went to Josh's house to get my car tuned. Car pulls hard with the setup. We tuned for about 4 hours straight, in 90* weather, beating the sh1t out of it. Engine and trans were both around 200 degrees, completely heat soaked and we couldn't get the car to knock at all, which is great. Running an 11.1 AFR @ WOT with 14* timing. At 15* timing the car sees about 2 degrees of KR but I'd rather be KR free. With a Gen V on a 3.4 at the top of second, right before the shift, the car sees 10.5ish psi. So the car is flowing very well.
Started to attempt my own body work. First time ever, so this all is a learning process.
This was before:
Really had to get this metal covered up before it started to rust. Made the huge mistake of taping off the surrounding area, so there is a tape line now, but not to concerned at this point, just looks better than before:
Then started working on the gas cap area. It started to rust again, and lots of bubbles underneath it. Don't have a before picture, but it looked nasty. This time I tried to blend. Came okay for my first time, and body work isn't easy to get to look perfect. I can see why it's expensive.
Taped off just the area for the primer:
Attempting to blend:
What it looked like with overspray all over the fender, before wet sanding:
Lots of wet sanding and buffing, this is how it turned out. Like I mentioned before, wasn't even close to perfect, but looks better than rust and bubbles:
Also fixed up around the wheel well, rear drivers side as it was missing paint and rusting:
Then started working on repainting the Front Air Dam, as that was in awful shape:
Primed:
Just the black painted:
Working on the silver middle part, used the stock color code for this, WA8945:
Cleared:
Car without Front Air Dam:
Quick mock up with the Air Dam back on before wet sanding:
Wet sanded and buffed the Air Dam, isn't quite as "shiney" as I'd like it too, but still looks much better than before. It's ready to be installed again, but I'm leaving for an Alaskan Cruise tomorrow morning for a week. Which also means I'll be missing the big meet in detroit, which really sucks, but this is a once in a lifetime trip I got for free.
All in all, I'm not too upset with my first time body work job. It's pretty difficult to blend the paint and have it look perfect. Everything was done with my finger and a rattle can as well. So can't be too upset with how it came out.
Re: 1997 Black GTP, The Final Project.
Actually guy at 15* it still had 0* kr. It wasn't till 16* it started knocking 1.5* but that's when the PCM went full retard. I think if we hit it again now that you have all the spark plugs fixed.
Actually guy at 15* it still had 0* kr. It wasn't till 16* it started knocking 1.5* but that's when the PCM went full retard. I think if we hit it again now that you have all the spark plugs fixed.
DanPrixGTP
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Re: 1997 Black GTP, The Final Project.
I lied then, even better news, looks like I'm at 15* degrees of timing instead of 14.
Misfire is fixed and LTFT's are a little bit better. Might be able to squeeze a tad bit more out of this old '97.
I lied then, even better news, looks like I'm at 15* degrees of timing instead of 14.
Misfire is fixed and LTFT's are a little bit better. Might be able to squeeze a tad bit more out of this old '97.
brandonl2000
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Re: 1997 Black GTP, The Final Project.
nice job Dan. think you could fix mah hood
nice job Dan. think you could fix mah hood
Mad Monkey
The Mod Monkey
Re: 1997 Black GTP, The Final Project.
i can't wait to get into my house so i can do that fixing too dan! Looking good brobeans
i can't wait to get into my house so i can do that fixing too dan! Looking good brobeans
DanPrixGTP
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Re: 1997 Black GTP, The Final Project.
Really upsetI can't make the meet.
But being on a cruise ship in Alaska might be a little better than looking at a bunch of 3800s. Just barely though.
Really upsetI can't make the meet.
But being on a cruise ship in Alaska might be a little better than looking at a bunch of 3800s. Just barely though.
DanPrixGTP
Moderator
Re: 1997 Black GTP, The Final Project.
Really upsetI can't make the meet.
But being on a cruise ship in Alaska might be a little better than looking at a bunch of 3800s. Just barely though.
Really upsetI can't make the meet.
But being on a cruise ship in Alaska might be a little better than looking at a bunch of 3800s. Just barely though.
Scottydoggs
Killa Bee
Re: 1997 Black GTP, The Final Project.
so upset you posted it twice lol
so upset you posted it twice lol
DanPrixGTP
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Re: 1997 Black GTP, The Final Project.
Double post FTW.
Double post FTW.
DanPrixGTP
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Re: 1997 Black GTP, The Final Project.
I also fixed my PCV system. Tapped the hole and put in a 3/8 brass plug
I also fixed my PCV system. Tapped the hole and put in a 3/8 brass plug
Below Average Joe
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Re: 1997 Black GTP, The Final Project.
Dirty TB is dirty......
Dirty TB is dirty......
DanPrixGTP
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Re: 1997 Black GTP, The Final Project.
It's not anymore. When I was tapping the hole, I cleaned the throttle body until it look new. It was very dirty.
It's not anymore. When I was tapping the hole, I cleaned the throttle body until it look new. It was very dirty.
yzboy85
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Re: 1997 Black GTP, The Final Project.
how did you get that different mesh in your hood? or did it come like that? mine has some really crap looking mesh and I'd like to change it...I don't see how it would ever come out though
also, wondering how you got your tails that dark (assuming they're the smoked leds)...just vht?
how did you get that different mesh in your hood? or did it come like that? mine has some really crap looking mesh and I'd like to change it...I don't see how it would ever come out though
also, wondering how you got your tails that dark (assuming they're the smoked leds)...just vht?
Scottydoggs
Killa Bee
Re: 1997 Black GTP, The Final Project.
nice job on the body work and paint. other then the tape lines that i cant really see in the pics. it looks damn good.
you may be able to wet sand them out.
nice job on the body work and paint. other then the tape lines that i cant really see in the pics. it looks damn good.
you may be able to wet sand them out.
DanPrixGTP
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Re: 1997 Black GTP, The Final Project.
Did a few finishing touches and the car looks 100x better than peeling paint every where and rust.
Add the grilles to the hood again and also added it to the front air dam:
Clean gas cap:
Blurry pic:
For a garage paint job, the front air dam turned out alright. Much better than before, but nothing like a body shop could do. As long as it looks good cruising down the road, I'm happy.
Did a few finishing touches and the car looks 100x better than peeling paint every where and rust.
Add the grilles to the hood again and also added it to the front air dam:
Clean gas cap:
Blurry pic:
For a garage paint job, the front air dam turned out alright. Much better than before, but nothing like a body shop could do. As long as it looks good cruising down the road, I'm happy.
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