I was looking at some things online today while I was having my code issues as explained in another thread. I found that ZZP sells a Stage 1 throttle body for 199.99 w/core exchange. After I priced out all the sensors that I was looking at possibly replacing I noticed that the ZZP throttle body comes with all the sensors and is cheaper then replacing the sensors. Now my question is, has anyone purchased this from ZZP and if so, feed back pleaseeee!!!
ZZPerformance High Velocity Throttle Body
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Fivefingerdeathpunch
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If the TB is bigger than stock, you'd need a tune because the readings will be off. And its un-needed because you cant outflow the stock one.
Its better to just fix your sensors and be on your way.
Its better to just fix your sensors and be on your way.
im pretty sure that it does come with the maf. the listing i read said sensor included or what ever.
okay. i was just looking over other options
Mustang and LSx owners see decent gains from being otherwise stock to upgrading their throttle bodies. I don't think bone stock cars are "outflowing" their stock TBs. To say it's unneeded is an opinion but you seem to be saying that it won't help him make more power... which it most definitely will.
Why would it run worse?
All a bigger TB is doing is allowing more air to be ingested per revolution. Same thing almost any bolt on does. Do these cars run worse if you add headers without a tune?
The MAF sensor stays stock.
Your statement is inherently flawed. If more air is leaving the motor that means that more air was coming in.
Removing the screen can cause turbulence across the sensor... completely different. Porting a stock TB and keeping the stock MAF will do absolutely nothing to make the car run worse.
Fivefingerdeathpunch
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He wont gain anything from a bigger throttle body, and it needs a tune whenever the TB is made bigger.
Its not about making the car run worse, its about making sure the PCM/MAF knows exactly how much air can flow into the motor at any given time.
Its not about making the car run worse, its about making sure the PCM/MAF knows exactly how much air can flow into the motor at any given time.
Z34Phoenix
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incorrect. the maf sensor reads a small amount of air vs the diameter of the TB. if the sensor stays the same and that diameter increase or changes then the ratio is now different. the same amount of air will now cause a different reading and the ft's will be off and could cause drivability issues.
also it is true that removing the screen does not "cause" more turbulence, but it prevents the existing turbulence from being smoothed out. if you remove the screen then tune the car you can now account for the new variables as with installing this tb, it is recommended you get a tune.