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Bikers...grr

Today I was waiting to take a left turn at a light and some idiot on his Ninja decided to race around me on my right and cut in front of me. Once we were caught up to traffic I rode his a$$ and at the next light I was creeping up to hit his tire and my wife asked me what I was doing so I told her I was going to wedge his tire put the car in park and beat him senseless.....needless to say she was pretty filpped out, I wish I was alone on that trip. Carma will get him sooner or later.
 


lol...being out in the street scene at night...I see a lot of fights between bikers and and drivers. I had some kid on a bike last night ride my but after I passed him in another lane. He then hit his high beam, and when I was about to brake check him I noticed a cop and so did he and he flipped a u'ey. Jokes on him though...I got the autodimming mirror..hehe. He was just lucky I wasn't in my pickup...I got duel 125watt High Beam lights mounted to my rear bumper for off-roading and all I have to do is flip a switch!
 
I stunt my bikes but NOT in traffic or anywhere someone else might get hurt. I know I am taking a risk when I do stupid things on my bike ( I lost it in a wheelie 2 years ago, got 2 broken ribs, a broken wrist and lots of roadrash ) but I only do that stuff when no other cars are around so I won't put anyone else in danger. I have been riding and stunting motorcycles since I was 16 (I am 33) , and dirtbikes before that. I had a few crashes but Never hurt anyone else but myself.

I preffer sportbikes because for 10k I can have performance that is matched only by the worlds best supercars, killer looks and still have a factory warranty.. My lil bro has a roadking and every once in a while he will want to switch for a few miles and I cant stand it,I hate the sitting position, the sound and lack of ummph when you twist the wrist but to each his own.

I agree that was douchey for the guy to be stunting right near your car but not all of us stunters are inconsiderate or ride around endangering others.
 
if you do it on the street you make someone elses life more difficult, and potential is higher to have a misshap (you don't know when someone will pull out from nowhere) I relate it to street racing, should be cause for immediate license revoking, and all vehicles impounded and sold to pay for the burial of people killed by people who do that stuff
 
A couple years ago, state and local cops started cracking down on cars that were streetracing. Sting operations and all. Seems like since then the motorcycle trouble maker has reared its evil head.

I searched our local online paper since June 5 for motorcycle accidents. Four deaths plus at least five other injured from accidents. So, that's nine. That's only what was reported by the paper; doesn't count what didn't make headlines. Pretty ominous numbers if you ask me for what, a six week period? I personally have lost two friends who were just flat out doing stupid things on the interstate in the past two years. One of them caused another person to wreck, so now his estate and insurance carrier are in the middle of a big lawsuit. His wife and son will end up with nothing when all is said and done. It's just really very sad. I can't fault anyone for doing what they love, but not when it jeopardizes their own or someone else's well being.

I have considered myself purchasing a bike. Here in VA, which I recently transferred everything to from MD, you actually have to do a written and practical test. There's a class you can take for a weekend costing about a hundred bucks so you can get around the practical test. The class itself is supposed to teach you the basics and is sponsored by more than half the local Harley shops. If you don't take the class, you can take the written and get a learner's permit, but then you have to have a licensed motorcyclist ride on a separate bike with you every time you ride until you pass the practical. Or should I say supposed to instead of have to...

I can say one thing is for certain, if I do buy one, it will more than likely be a cruiser. I considered a Buell Blast, but I think I'm too short for a sport. If I adjust the seat too much, then I lose the performance qualities of the bike. The sports seem to be a much easier target for the other drivers on the road. I sometimes don't even realize that they are near me until they are really close by because they creep up so quickly. I haven't been on one since I left MD, so I think it would be best to relearn on the more safe of the options, and I say IF I get one.
 
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archemedes said:
if you do it on the street you make someone elses life more difficult, and potential is higher to have a misshap (you don't know when someone will pull out from nowhere) I relate it to street racing, should be cause for immediate license revoking, and all vehicles impounded and sold to pay for the burial of people killed by people who do that stuff
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I would disagree because of the different degrees of what the rider is doing. If someone is riding a hiway wheelie in daytime traffic where there are cars around him, in front of him and behind him then he is being a danger to the people around him, he could crash and cause a multi car accident and should be treated differently than me going into work at 5 am and standing the bike up on the interstate without a car in sight. In the event that I crash I would hurt/kill only myself and being that I know the risks involved and chose to make that decision I would have it coming.

Same thing with the streetracing thing, I don't see anything wrong with some people going to an industrial park after hours, blocking off the side roads with cars just in case and having some fun while being cautious that no unsuspecting people might get into harms way. Now if the same people were racing through traffic and using the breakdown lane and stuff like that then they deserve to be arrested.

I would never agree with forfiture of someones personal property, I think its just un american. I could see revoking the persons license or right to register a car but never to take someones personal property. I don't want to seem cocky, like an a$$ or start a flame war, I am just stating my opinion and thoughts on the subject. I am not one of those guys who thinks he is always right and do enjoy hearing the other side of subjects I discuss without getting argumentive.
 
hotshot said:
I would disagree because of the different degrees of what the rider is doing. If someone is riding a hiway wheelie in daytime traffic where there are cars around him, in front of him and behind him then he is being a danger to the people around him, he could crash and cause a multi car accident and should be treated differently than me going into work at 5 am and standing the bike up on the interstate without a car in sight. In the event that I crash I would hurt/kill only myself and being that I know the risks involved and chose to make that decision I would have it coming.

Same thing with the streetracing thing, I don't see anything wrong with some people going to an industrial park after hours, blocking off the side roads with cars just in case and having some fun while being cautious that no unsuspecting people might get into harms way. Now if the same people were racing through traffic and using the breakdown lane and stuff like that then they deserve to be arrested.

I would never agree with forfiture of someones personal property, I think its just un american. I could see revoking the persons license or right to register a car but never to take someones personal property. I don't want to seem cocky, like an a$$ or start a flame war, I am just stating my opinion and thoughts on the subject. I am not one of those guys who thinks he is always right and do enjoy hearing the other side of subjects I discuss without getting argumentive.
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on the street there are always variables, it is never safe, there are side streets, and sidewalks where people can come out of. I have had to clean up childrens brains from the road from these kids, so I have a hard time defending those actions. I also don't see where we have even had the right to material possessions, if something is used in a crime you lose it (traffic drugs and see what you keep once the dea and irs are done, you may have some clothes)
 
Any of you ever been to California. They do that **** in between the lanes. The think that that white line is a motorcycle lane. You really gotta watch out for them. Funny thing is the cops ride between the lanes too.
 
rynoman03 said:
Any of you ever been to California. They do that **** in between the lanes. The think that that white line is a motorcycle lane. You really gotta watch out for them. Funny thing is the cops ride between the lanes too.
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they have what is called lane sharing, it's legal to ride there
 
In R.I. you can ride in between the lanes on a motorcycle if you are going less than 10mph. It is an old law on the books from when all motorcycles were air cooled and in heavy traffic (especially at the beach) they would overheat.
I agree to disagree with ya about the forfiture laws even for drug runners unless they could prove that illegal money was used for the purchases. I read a story a few months ago in NC they were seizing cars used in streetraces. Almost every single person on the mustang forum i am on decided they would then try to run and if that wasnt possible they would drive into a pole so they wouldnt be stuck with a payment on a car that the police were going to use to entrap fellow streetracers.I see that as a danger to fellow drivers.

Last spring there was a guy who got clocked on rt 146 by the state police doing a wheelie at 126mph. He saw the trooper behind him, put front wheel down , gave him the finger and sped away. They saw him an hour or so later in the city, guns drawn on him at a light, lifted his front wheel knocked the cop down and got away. The cops fired a few shots (IN THE CITY IN BROAD DAYLIGHT) , didnt hit him and he got away. Now if that was a bank robber, rapest or murderer i would agree with them but for a traffic infraction? If i was there with one of my kids in my car I would have one of those bloodsucker lawyers who advertise on daytime tv suing them.

And in all seriousness when is the last time anyone has heard of a car bike accident and thought those poor fellas in the suv, they didnt stand a chance. In R.I. it is an arrestable offence if you are caught speeding over 100mph and it is generally known that if you are going that fast on a bike you wouldnt stop ( I would stop since my life is worth more than a minor arrest and some fines) but almost every guy I ride with has done it and got away, this season its happened while I was riding with them. We have a pre determined meetup spot since some will stop and some wont. The only benefit the guys who stop are almost always left alone since the cops chase the ones who screw. Now I am NOT saying what they do is right in any way at all but in their mind they think if i stop I am getting arrested anyway so if I take off I have a really good chance of getting away. Thats fine and dandy for them but what about the drivers who are at risk of a police car taking them out over a SPEEDING violation? Like I said before a diddler, robber, rapest or murder I am all for it, the risk is worth the reward but for a speeder?
 


I am amazed the you can do 126 mph anywhere in Rhode Island, the roads are always a cluster f**k whenever I go there. That guy has a death wish.
 
Yeah he was on rt 146 , idiot was riding right by the state police barracks, I assume he didnt know that the barracks were there or you never know because from his actions he obviously isnt the sharpest knife in the drawer. I am not defending his actions in my post but saying the lesser of two evils would have been to let him go and have natural selection take course. Luckily nobody was hurt but the police shooting at him in downtown providence at noon time was equally as irresponsible. Like I said I do occasionally pop it up on the hiway but make sure no other cars are around. If I want to really stunt a bunch of guys go to a certian industrial park on the weekends for the extreme stuff, in a parking lot with all entrances closed off by cars and we are usually doing slow speed stuff like circle wheelies, spreaders and a few guys can pull off a hichair wheelie (thats a wheelie sitting on the tank with both feet over the handlebars) and endos and stuff of that sort. I would never personally do much more than a wheelie on public roads and never with any cars around. On another non bike note, 2 weeks later the officer who fired at him was off duty when a niteclub when it got out, saw a gay driving irradicly and walked over to him at a light and confronted the guy, identified himself as a RI state trooper, the guy got out and beat the $heeit out of him. Poor fella was in a coma and not expected to walk again, I am happy to say a year later he made a full recovery and is back on the job last week. His name is brendan doyle if you didnt hear and wanted to google it. Best of luck trooper doyle!!
 
You never know what the person you are going to confront is like. He seems to be on his way to a good recovery I wish him the best. Some times they may be better off looking the other way with certain things or maybe taking a plate number and meeting them at their house with other troopers to confront them. I never hear anything good about Providence except the Italian section, but then I only pass through on 95 or I go to Cranston to my vendors.
 
hotshot said:
In R.I. you can ride in between the lanes on a motorcycle if you are going less than 10mph. It is an old law on the books from when all motorcycles were air cooled and in heavy traffic (especially at the beach) they would overheat.
I agree to disagree with ya about the forfiture laws even for drug runners unless they could prove that illegal money was used for the purchases. I read a story a few months ago in NC they were seizing cars used in streetraces. Almost every single person on the mustang forum i am on decided they would then try to run and if that wasnt possible they would drive into a pole so they wouldnt be stuck with a payment on a car that the police were going to use to entrap fellow streetracers.I see that as a danger to fellow drivers.

Last spring there was a guy who got clocked on rt 146 by the state police doing a wheelie at 126mph. He saw the trooper behind him, put front wheel down , gave him the finger and sped away. They saw him an hour or so later in the city, guns drawn on him at a light, lifted his front wheel knocked the cop down and got away. The cops fired a few shots (IN THE CITY IN BROAD DAYLIGHT) , didnt hit him and he got away. Now if that was a bank robber, rapest or murderer i would agree with them but for a traffic infraction? If i was there with one of my kids in my car I would have one of those bloodsucker lawyers who advertise on daytime tv suing them.

And in all seriousness when is the last time anyone has heard of a car bike accident and thought those poor fellas in the suv, they didnt stand a chance. In R.I. it is an arrestable offence if you are caught speeding over 100mph and it is generally known that if you are going that fast on a bike you wouldnt stop ( I would stop since my life is worth more than a minor arrest and some fines) but almost every guy I ride with has done it and got away, this season its happened while I was riding with them. We have a pre determined meetup spot since some will stop and some wont. The only benefit the guys who stop are almost always left alone since the cops chase the ones who screw. Now I am NOT saying what they do is right in any way at all but in their mind they think if i stop I am getting arrested anyway so if I take off I have a really good chance of getting away. Thats fine and dandy for them but what about the drivers who are at risk of a police car taking them out over a SPEEDING violation? Like I said before a diddler, robber, rapest or murder I am all for it, the risk is worth the reward but for a speeder?
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and that is my point, the punishment is not a deterrent to stop doing it, I have seen people killed in an suv because of a bike, driver swerves, or part of biker comes through windshield. The guy was fired on for assaulting a cop (and is real lucky they missed as he probably would not have made it to jail)
 
You are absolutly right, the punishment is not a deterrant. The only time I see guys chill out and even wear a helmet for a few weeks is when someone close to us dies on a bike. For as long as I have been riding we lose at least one person in our group every summer, sometimes a few over the summer and everyone reflects on how it could have been them and we all need to calm down but its only a matter of weeks before adrenaline takes over again and everything is back to normal again.

As far as the cops firing on that guy I was upset because the guns were drawn because he was speeding. I think most of us would be really angry if our chilrden saw a police shootout from a car or 2 in front of us then later learned it was from a speeding infraction. Not to mention they chased him for several miles and he was on a gixxer 1000 wich I know from personal experience has a speed limiter at 186mph BEFORE you use a power commander to remove the speed limiter. 1 idiot going that fast is plenty but several police cars pipe dreaming about catching him only multiplies the danger to the public.
 


The father, a felon who has served stints in prison, suggested his son was being unfairly stigmatized “because his last name is Payne.”

Gotta love this quote. his name is why they stigmatize him. Not the fact that 1.He was riding a dirt bike on public roads 2. Blew a stop sign. 3. wasn't old enough to be driving anything because he was 15. or 4. It was stolen to begin with. The only good thing to come out of this is the taxpayers will save the money that would have been spent incarcerating him for his various crimes as he grew up.
 
Recently I was in the right lane on a busy road in my town. Looked at my sideview mirror and saw 2 crotchrockets behind me in the left lane, they were coming up fast. Keep in mind the speed limit is 40-45mph, its a saturday afternoon and this is probably the last road in the town that you want to speed on. Immediately I flipped on my left turn signal and switched lanes right in front of them, hoping I would see 2 bodies fly over my car and then able to put Darwin awards on both their caskets. But, one of them put the brakes on hard and the other actually went around the left side of my car into oncoming traffic. Unfortunately he made it by also. Maybe next time.
 
This morning on my way into work I was in the fast lane a few hundred feet behind some moron in the souped up VW Yetta. Some person on a crotch rocket comes up behind me moving at a good clip so I move into the middle lane well so does the Yetta and he slows down, all of the sudden he punches it and after I made it through his black cloud of smoke I see he is trying to race the bike, both idiots go hauling a$$ by a DMV cop with a tractor truck pulled over, I was hoping to see both of them wreck or get busted but no such luck.
 
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