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First real snow fall and I find out my 99 GP goes like **** in the snow. Good tires all around and I'm lucky to make it out of my driveway. My ABS is extremely touchy also. Is this normal for our cars? I'm about to take the ABS fuse out on deal with the light on.I've never had brakes act like this before and I've driven a bunch of cars with ABS brakes. This sucks I want my Sable back for the winter!
 


My 08 was great in the snow, but I had stock sized tires, and no abs or traction control...

This car is still pretty good, but sometimes the wide tires I put on act like snow shoes and dont bite into pavement when there's snow on top.. and this car has abs.. I hate abs.

Otherwise, it's pretty beastly in the snow.
 
Hmm, I've never had an issue with snow in my grand prix, even with sub par tires last winter. I always turn traction control off in the snow aswell, I hate when it kicks in.

I just know to slow down sooner and be lighter on the brake pedal to not let the ABS kick in.

Perhaps the brand of tires you have arent very good in the snow aswell.
 
i found that doing the F body brake swap made the abs way less touchy in the snow.


my car wont move in the snow with the tc on. its turned off at the first sight of rain, never mind snow lol
 
Tires make a huge difference, I can't wait for mine to wear down so I can have an excuse to get decent ones

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My tires are Michelin Symmetrys, and last winter were worn down at 20% tread on the fronts, and like 10% on the back, and did pretty good in the snow. I never got stuck and I was never afraid it would happen either. And they don't plow our side streets until up to 3 days after it snowed, our street would have very tall snow (it would scrape on the bottom of the car). Now they're worn even worse and I have to replace them, Symmetrys are no longer being made so I'll go with another Michelin and hope for the best.
 
I don't understand why some people that live in harsh winter climates run all season tires. IMO, It's not worth the risk to try to save a few hundred bucks. I've had plenty of occasions over the last few years with this car, when I thought, I probably wouldn't have made it home if I hadn't had some nice chunky winter tires. I don't even live in the great lakes region which gets even worse winters.

Personally, I'd rather spend a little extra to have some peace of mind. I've driven in most of the worst storms we've had here in the last few years and I've never had a problem. I live up beyond 2 of the steepest hills I can think of and frequently push through a 2+ foot snow bank to get into my driveway.

Kelly/Pacemark Snowtrakker's are what I run. Next season I'm probably going to try General Altimax Arctic's. I had my mother get them for her Legacy last season and it seemed nearly unstoppable.

Also, I don't use studs. It's not necessary with these tires.
 
because the average driver can navigate just fine with all seasons in the 20 or so times they have to drive in the snow in the course of the whole winter.

winter tires are nice...but necessary? not in the least.
 
I live in Buffalo NY and I've never run snow tires and its never mattered. As long as your aren't a cheap a$$ running bald a$$ tires on your ride you'll be fine(and as long as that ride isn't junk). Problem with putting snows on is tomorrow for example, November 26th its supposed to snow 7 inches and then again the day after and stay cold after that all week. It seems like full on winter, but the way things go here it will be 55 degrees everyday right till new years and no sign of winter.
 
I put X-Ice tires on mine for the past two years...Never going back to not using snow tires in the winter.
 


I have michelin destiny tires (all season) on my 08 GP and I've never stayed off the roads because of a snowstorm. Heck I go out for fun when we have blizzards and such - nothing like blasting through snow drifts while idiots in SUVs are lining the ditches :) Short of running worn tires, I think it comes down to the driver. I don't have ABS or TC and I've never had an oh $hit moment that I didn't set myself up for.
 
Snow... Already got 10 inches or so of that white trash here.

Michelin X-Ice, TCS Off, longer brake time and it's perfect! Comp-G Stabilitrak does wonder in the snow, too.
 
In the one real snow fall that we've had since moving my GP did fantastic in it. Only time I had an issue was when I started to get a little cocky and stopped respecting the conditions.

Actually made me proud as there were spots where I had no issue yet the AWD Jeep in front of me did. (Jeep did a 180 and I got to wave "hello" at the driver.)
 
We've had 50+ cms here in Edmonton, Alberta and the GP is a great car in the snow. Pulls well through the deep snow, and just be nice and easy with the throttle, and light on the wheel, and you'll be fine. I love driving in the snow. It's just the people going too slow that do my head in; Edmonton drivers are just nasty!

Just fitted some new all season tires; Hankook Optimo 4S and they really bite into the snow and ice.

Only time I've had an incident was in February 3 1/2 years ago when I'd just got the car, so didn't really know how she drove. Ended up doing a 720 whilst going around an icy hairpin in Jasper National Park. Wasn't nice seeing the cliff face and then the drop to the river and then the cliff face etc etc. First and final incident!!!
 


You live somewhere in the north and use 4 seasons? To each their own I suppose.

They also make great snowplow. Really need to get around fixing the darned snowblower 'cause I'm tired of shoveling half a feet to a feet of snow daily.
Comp-G in snow, as of today.
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WolvesSoulZ said:
You live somewhere in the north and use 4 seasons? To each their own I suppose.

They also make great snowplow. Really need to get around fixing the darned snowblower 'cause I'm tired of shoveling half a feet to a feet of snow daily.
Comp-G in snow, as of today.
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It's not mandatory to have winter tires in Alberta, so until it is, it's all seasons for me. It is mandatory in Quebec though, isn't it? I just don't see the need to have a set of winters. Plus, living in an apartment building, I have nowhere to store tires.

Anyway, the city do a great job of clearing the major routes, so the roads here are never that bad that winter tyres are a must, IMO.

The Optimo 4S have a pretty good snow/ice rating for an all season, so I'm happy :-)
 
Thing is, even if it wasn't mandatory, I'd get winter tires either ways, since well, as you can see in my picture, there's a ****load of snow and we're not even in December and that snow lasts up to April. (I ripped my bumper lip at work last year at the end of April on ice/snow.) I do end up travelling in weird time during snowfalls, so it's rather frequent that I am in fresh 2-3 inch of snow. I cannot even imagine the numbers of time I would have got stuck going up hill or anywhere at it even, with all seasons in the conditions we've had in the past weeks.

Now on to add that they have this silly thing here named "White districts", where they just plow the snow without putting any salt/calcium/sand. Pretty slippery. So I just end up using All seasons for summer and Winter for well, winter.
 
If I lived in Quebec, I'd more than likely get winters, but thankfully Edmonton is fairly flat (apart from a couple of steep climbs from the valley) and I live close to downtown, so the ploughs are out frequently and clear the roads good. If it snows hard, I just stay at home ;-)
 
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