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Who else would like to see a RWD 97-03 GP?

That does suck. I think it still would be worth it. I have only ever seen one Commodore driving around before.
 


I thought about doing this many times Id love to see a RWD LS 6 speed GP. But thats a ton of work and expect it to take years to do and not to mention how much it would cost and how many hours of labor it would take to do. If I wasnt into Mustangs as much as I am now Id consider it, I think I could get it done with help from my buddy's and guys at work but I have to many projects already. If there was someone going for this I wouldn't tell them its a bad idea because if your motivated enough and have the skills it can be done. I like the looks of a GP the only thing I dont like is it being FWD and automatic as Im sure many of you agree. Also if you get it done it would be nice to say you built your own car and after you get it done you would know everything about it. Over all Id say its worth it, if you dont have something better you would wanna build.
 
Of course he knows its gonna be alot of money. Everyone always has to do this and it pisses me off let the man do it for Christ sake.

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Jordan5066 said:
Of course he knows its gonna be alot of money. Everyone always has to do this and it pisses me off let the man do it for Christ sake. Sent from my SGH-I747M using Tapatalk
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This forum is full of realists. It's not that anyone on here doesnt want the OP to make a RWD Grand Prix it's just that a lot of times things look good on paper and in people's heads but when they actually go to do it they end up halfway through the project with a car thats cut up and never ends up running or driving again. If the OP decides to actually go ahead and start the project most members on here will be more than willing to help with advise on how to do stuff things and what parts to use from what cars ect.
 
Jordan5066 said:
Of course he knows its gonna be alot of money. Everyone always has to do this and it pisses me off let the man do it for Christ sake.

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I'm sorry, who are you again? Take your bunched up panties elsewhere.

The main reason more people don't make rear wheel drive grand prixs is the cost factor and customization required.
 
gtpeddie said:
I wouldn't tell them its a bad idea because if your motivated enough and have the skills it can be done.
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That's a mighty big "if". I can't tell you the number of times I've seen someone get really excited over an idea like this, only to be caught in the midst of a nightmare once they're 1/4 - 1/2 into the project, and only then realize just how much work, money and know-how it's going to take to complete the project. Most people don't account for the seemingly never-ending sea of little problems that will arise during a huge custom project of this sort because they're just infatuated with the end product they're imagining/expecting. This leads to a lot of justification of issues brought up by others even before hand. "Oh, no problem, I know how to do that. Oh, no problem, I can afford that". Seldom does someone actually sit down and do the math on both the financial and physical aspects that they claim to be "no problem". In the end, probably about 9 times out of 10, it remains an unfinished pipe dream.



Jordan5066 said:
Of course he knows its gonna be alot of money.
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That's the problem. He knows it's going to be a lot of money, when in reality, it's going to be a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT of money. I'm talking you better be prepared to spend DEEP into the 5 digits. By the time the project is done, if it's done properly, and the car is actually reliably functional, the project will have cost right at about what a new midsized car of the same class or better would have cost. Now I have no problem with that if that's what you want to do, AND can afford it, but the chances that someone driving around in a 13+ year old $3k POS w-body has that kind of money to spend on ANYTHING, much less an unnecessary project of this nature are slim to none.



Jordan5066 said:
Everyone always has to do this and it pisses me off let the man do it for Christ sake.
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Who the hell here told him NOT to do it? We're simply stating facts, or the reality of the situation. Most people don't deal with reality, only fantasies. If he has the time, know-how and deep enough pockets to make a project this complicated happen, then more power to him. Knock yourself out. But don't get pissed off at the reality checks just because they don't agree with your dreams.
 


I have seen first hand, the work involved in this conversion, as the build referenced in fullthrottlev6 is one of my best friends. Its a **** ton of work. If you have the skills, time and money, it can happen. And turbo the damn thing for craps sake. thats the easy part ;)
 


If someone is serious about doing this project then why in the hell wouldn't someone put the shell of a w body on a full frame hotrod chassis that already has the front and rear suspension and brake setup already on it? Then its just a matter of getting the wheel base right and the rest is cake. So many people try to over complicate the process. And the 3k car blah 13 year old car blah blah blah people have done way worse projects just sayin.....................

If people can rwd or awd swap a damn Honda why would this be any different?

Ohhh but its so easy for people to say its a stupid idea right????????
 
I forget who it was, but I was talking to someone on here somewhat recently about using an S-10 frame for a Grand Prix body. It might take a little trimming length wise, but the width should be good.

Then again, having a custom frame built by a specialty shop like Chassis Works would be a much better option at a higher cost.
 


If you're paying 2-3k for a rolling foxbox, I've got some nice ocean front property in Arizona I would love to sell you.

Foxes need a lot of suspension work to stop the ass end from kicking out and to stop wheel hop. Why waste the time and money when g bodies came with factory 4 links?

A turbo 3.8 isn't where the power is if you're trying to go fast, especially if you're going for reliability. Quick now a days is a mid 9 by most interpretations.
 
Explicit_Spade said:
If you're paying 2-3k for a rolling foxbox, I've got some nice ocean front property in Arizona I would love to sell you.

Foxes need a lot of suspension work to stop the ass end from kicking out and to stop wheel hop. Why waste the time and money when g bodies came with factory 4 links?

A turbo 3.8 isn't where the power is if you're trying to go fast, especially if you're going for reliability. Quick now a days is a mid 9 by most interpretations.
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6200$ for this 94 with minty paint, 25.5 upgradable 10pt. chromoly everything/full front and rear suspension/axles/brakes...full boogie roller....just drop in your turbo 3800 with auto/manual and have fun... http://www.chitownracing.com/forums/showthread.php?208889-1994-mustang-drag-roller

i tried to find a thread from the last month of a 91 hatch with some good parts and an 8 point bar, dents/dings, no rust, rearend/suspension, K member etc that sold for 2500$ (wanted 3500 with the weld rims) but alas they delete sold threads.

closest G body roller i found to that 6200$ fox was a 10k$ regal roller (former bbc car) on racing junk

lot of suspension work? you do realize that the fox and the G body share the triangulated 4 link suspension design as well as craploads of others.... plenty of turbo buicks have just as much into their rear suspension as fox's...but guess which one's parts are cheaper and more common/easier to find.
plain and simple is that the foxbody is one of the cheapest platforms nowadays....i wouldnt put the G body near that category.

we arent talking about other powerplants but sure, go ahead and dump coin on a big block, etc...we're in a thread talking about a rwd conversion on a GP....get out of here with your logic lol

but it sure is sweet to see a mild turbo buick knock the dick off a sprayed big block GS400

guess which car was driven to and from the track and which was trailered...sure this argument can go either way, and it has since the dawn of rodd'n... but what point is having something that people yawn and walk past cause its like the other millions of cars out there.....but toss a turbo buick in there and you get doubletakes and mind****s.

i always saw people walk past rows of F bodies/vettes/mustangs/etc yet they stopped and eyeball ****ed the TR while asking how crazy are we to build a fwd turbo buick.

plus enough mustang guys around here would get their jimmy's rustled with a turbo 3800 fox that i could feed off of the hate....plus unlike a 302 our blocks wont split at only 2x OEM power levels...

all i know is its a PITA trying to find parts for my 84 cressida...if i had started with a fox i wouldnt be having to modify everything as i am currently
 
Explicit_Spade said:
If you're paying 2-3k for a rolling foxbox, I've got some nice ocean front property in Arizona I would love to sell you.

Foxes need a lot of suspension work to stop the ass end from kicking out and to stop wheel hop. Why waste the time and money when g bodies came with factory 4 links?

A turbo 3.8 isn't where the power is if you're trying to go fast, especially if you're going for reliability. Quick now a days is a mid 9 by most interpretations.
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He means a caged drag car roller full suspension and all that jazz, 2-3k is a decent price for a clean fox body that just needs a motor and trans, the only thing i have to add to this is gm already makes a rwd grand prix its called a 3800 fbody, and i happen to know they are pretty easy to fab a turbo kit for
 
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