Re: Suspension help, what's still available?
The plan is to use the bushings that come with the GMPP bars and Moog endlinks front/rear and the STB's front and rear. I saw the DR brackets, he wants like $100 for a pair. For that kind of coin I can drill a couple holes.... This will be Phase I of the suspension work. Phase II will entail new LCA's and tie rod ends up front, trailing arms and lateral bars in the back with poly bushings all around, then I will get it re-aligned. The KYB struts are staying for now...remember that the springs are what control the stiffness of the ride, the struts are just the dampening of the spring rate. If the ride is still too soft, I may try stiffer springs on the KYB struts.
Trying to dissect what I feel in the seat, I'm not getting a lot of up-down wallow like you would from a really soft suspension, rather I get tossed from side-to-side a lot on uneven roads, making me think the sway bars need some improvement. Hoping to get them installed this weekend and report back.
Youre going to brake your balls drilling, lmao... have you figured out how you're going to drill the rear? What about diagonal braces? And the springs may control the stiffness of the RIDE, they are limited in what they do to counteract understeer which is the problem you want to address.
(rotten) It's not hype, and it's not about autocross, that's hype... Nice try though.
the GTP has well known issues regarding steering, the way to correct those issues are well documented. Has nothing to do with pushing the car to its limits but to adjusting and compensating for how the car handles stock vs corrected with some easy steps. Fact is the GMPP front sway, although bigger than stock, is hollow. This means it WILL flex more than a solid bar given the same diameter. I have expressed personal experience from BOTH sways and said nothing about auto road crossing, but thanks. Sell the GMPP bar when you get it and get the Dorman, trust me. And yes, there is a NOTICABLE difference between the two. Like I said, two GP's side by side, identical suspension upgrades except the front sway. The feel was from one minute to the next, ride the same roads, same day, out of one car into another. The GMPP will feel better, but it will NOT feel the same as the SOLID bar. But the biggest difference will be felt when tightening the REAR.
I happen to live in an area that has a lot of curved roads and hills. I can tell you the major difference tuning the suspension properly has made. Couple it along with great rubber on the ground and upgraded braking and the GTP is a different car. You can all do what you want, but if you want to fix the inherent
understeering and make the suspension more responsive that will maybe, just maybe help you avoid an accident, I would suggest you look hard at the value of those cheap components... $15 or $500, doesn't make a difference. But using the
correct components is what matters. Additionally, when you upgrade the suspension, it's not complete without addressing all the components that are lacking such as the trailing arms. When I removed my stock trailing arms I was shocked that I could twist them by hand... Crazy!
Anyways, there are tried and true methods that have worked to fix the problem of understeering on the GP, you can accept advice or disregard it. The GMPP are the products that should have been stock, so consider them a stock replacement, period. I can tell you my steering is quick and responsive, not dull and lacking. The side to side feel can only be corrected with a different seat that will hold you in place, lol, the GP seats also are well known for sucking! Don't forget to get the right tires too... $100 specials aren't going to help anything either. Bottom line, is just like any mods, you gotta pay to play. Don't expect a $500 suspension to feel like a $1,500+...
