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02bluegtss

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Hey everyone,

im new to the forum but have been reading threads here for quite a while now.

my mod's on my car are as follows:

02 gp gt
zzp ssm90 kit (ported)
zzp 3.8" mps pulley
zzp tb spacer
zzp hv tb stage 1
k&n cai
zzp 10.4mm plug wires
autolite 104's
zzp fuel pump rewire
zzp alt voltage booster
gtp rad
zzp 180* tstat
zzp gtp injectors
zzp pcm
zzp fuel logs with fuellabs fpr
zzp 2.5" catted downpipe

also i have the zzp ss intercooler that i have not installed as of yet


on to my actual issue.

since installing majority of the above items i have had this unique issue that im not sure where to look.

if i leave the car overnight without starting it, when i go to start it the first time it wont start unless i prime it a few times. once the car is running and idling at cold it will randomly start to hunt up and down. if i decided to drive it while it is doing this it will buck and feel like its misfiring. once the vehicle is warmed up it will not do this ever until i leave it overnight again.

i scanned for codes none shown but i do have misfires reported in the misfire history


any ideas would be great

thanks

Mike
 


02bluegtss said:
Hey everyone,

im new to the forum but have been reading threads here for quite a while now.

my mod's on my car are as follows:

02 gp gt
zzp ssm90 kit (ported)
zzp 3.8" mps pulley
zzp tb spacer
zzp hv tb stage 1
k&n cai
zzp 10.4mm plug wires
autolite 104's
zzp fuel pump rewire
zzp alt voltage booster
gtp rad
zzp 180* tstat
zzp gtp injectors
zzp pcm
zzp fuel logs with fuellabs fpr
zzp 2.5" catted downpipe

also i have the zzp ss intercooler that i have not installed as of yet


on to my actual issue.

since installing majority of the above items i have had this unique issue that im not sure where to look.

if i leave the car overnight without starting it, when i go to start it the first time it wont start unless i prime it a few times. once the car is running and idling at cold it will randomly start to hunt up and down. if i decided to drive it while it is doing this it will buck and feel like its misfiring. once the vehicle is warmed up it will not do this ever until i leave it overnight again.

i scanned for codes none shown but i do have misfires reported in the misfire history


any ideas would be great

thanks

Mike
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I have a 2001 Grand Prix GT with the SS M90 kit as well. I have a rough idle and the RPM is all over the place when it's cold. I would love to hear the answer to this question as well!

P.S. How are you running a 3.8" pulley without more flow mods? I get knock retard with a 4.0" pulley and I have a CAI, headers and full 2.5" exhaust.
 
1) Any SES lights?

2) 2.5" Exhaust is retarded on ANY boosted car. 3" or nothing...and figuring the price of headers now are barely over $200...they should be the first thing bought.
 
my next upgrade is going to be the ssac headers or speed daddy with no question and cat back is stock exhaust

I cant remember for sure but i think the p0300 was listed in the codes but my ses light is never on.
 


02bluegtss said:
Hey everyone,

im new to the forum but have been reading threads here for quite a while now.

my mod's on my car are as follows:

02 gp gt
zzp ssm90 kit (ported)
zzp 3.8" mps pulley
zzp tb spacer
zzp hv tb stage 1
k&n cai
zzp 10.4mm plug wires
autolite 104's
zzp fuel pump rewire
zzp alt voltage booster
gtp rad
zzp 180* tstat
zzp gtp injectors
zzp pcm
zzp fuel logs with fuellabs fpr
zzp 2.5" catted downpipe

also i have the zzp ss intercooler that i have not installed as of yet


on to my actual issue.

since installing majority of the above items i have had this unique issue that im not sure where to look.

if i leave the car overnight without starting it, when i go to start it the first time it wont start unless i prime it a few times. once the car is running and idling at cold it will randomly start to hunt up and down. if i decided to drive it while it is doing this it will buck and feel like its misfiring. once the vehicle is warmed up it will not do this ever until i leave it overnight again.

i scanned for codes none shown but i do have misfires reported in the misfire history


any ideas would be great

thanks

Mike
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Priming is normal the FPR doesnt hold pressure like the stock one. The cold start issues are normal to the ssm90's
 
Bedwards said:
I have a 2001 Grand Prix GT with the SS M90 kit as well. I have a rough idle and the RPM is all over the place when it's cold. I would love to hear the answer to this question as well!

P.S. How are you running a 3.8" pulley without more flow mods? I get knock retard with a 4.0" pulley and I have a CAI, headers and full 2.5" exhaust.
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Id like to see a scan of your setup. You're tune must blow
 
Time to get HPTuners and a wideband.

Or try a bottle of some quality octane booster and see if the knock goes down, if it does, the knock is real, if it doesnt, then its false.
 
matt5112 said:
Time to get HPTuners and a wideband.

Or try a bottle of some quality octane booster and see if the knock goes down, if it does, the knock is real, if it doesnt, then its false.
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I'm selling my wideband for the sole purpose that I will never have the time to learn how to tune. I run 94 octane fuel, so there is still a possibility the knock is false. Could the transmission dipstick rubbing up against the headers cause false knock?
 


It could, I wouldnt want them touching for heat reasons though.

94 Octane is E10 last i heard.

That tends to have a slightly different stoich and rich/lean AFR's. Might affect your tune.
 
matt5112 said:
It could, I wouldnt want them touching for heat reasons though.

94 Octane is E10 last i heard.

That tends to have a slightly different stoich and rich/lean AFR's. Might affect your tune.
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Okay. I'll try putting header wrap around the spot that they touch. 94 Octane (from Husky) is 91 octane with 10% ethanol added.
 
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