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Traction Aids for the street

UR LOSN

UR LOSN

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I would like to see more traction aid mods. spring blockers, wheelie bars are fine for drag strip........but would like something else for street.

like the wbs control arms...thats a good idea. but...never in stock. anyone ever try of tubular control arms? with QA1 style mounts? carbon fiber fenders? decklid? spoiler?

anything to lighten the car up....

please post!!!!!
 
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jack up the rear of the car to unload the rear springs and struts. Insert the spring blocker, bottom first and snap in. if they dont seem like they are tall enough to snap in, lower the jack a hair till they go in pretty easily.

i suggest you zip tie them once they are set in place, some people have had them pop out(tho this is very rare)
 


You probably won't see the WBS arms anymore (stock modified). Mike wants to have tubular ones. I was making them, and it was a *****fest everytime I made a set. Mostly because to keep it in the target price, I was putting in so many hours just to get the cores into shape it wasn't worth it once all the materials were purchased. It's hard to justify to the wife making peanuts that it was worth it!

I have a way to do the tubular, but just don't have time to screw with it. By next race season the tubular ones will be out though.

Also, an immense improvement can be had from changing the trailing arm geometry. So an adjustable trailing arm kit with a lowering bracket will be offered this year too.

I road test this stuff for a good long while, since my car is a DD. Since I made the original set of modifed control arms, I've racked up 60K+. Probably put 40K on the trailing arms at this point.
 
Sorry to hear the front control arms arent gonna happen, I know a handful of guys that have wanted them for some time. Ron if it helps you or Mike any there is a local chassis builder called Urbine Brothers, or UB Performance, they build tubular race car frames and complete chassis, full line of parts etc. It is a pretty big opperation, I was out there a few years ago interviewing and was impressed by everything they made. They have cnc mills and everything is in-house. They do make front tubular control arms for my Cutlass however :D
 
Well there is a nice little network going on up here in Chicago with about 1/2 dozen of us helping each other out. Between us we plan on doing a little manufacturing soon. I have a new koni coilover setup in the works with camber plates and all too!
 
Ron Vogel said:
You probably won't see the WBS arms anymore (stock modified). Mike wants to have tubular ones. I was making them, and it was a *****fest everytime I made a set. Mostly because to keep it in the target price, I was putting in so many hours just to get the cores into shape it wasn't worth it once all the materials were purchased. It's hard to justify to the wife making peanuts that it was worth it!

I have a way to do the tubular, but just don't have time to screw with it. By next race season the tubular ones will be out though.

Also, an immense improvement can be had from changing the trailing arm geometry. So an adjustable trailing arm kit with a lowering bracket will be offered this year too.

I road test this stuff for a good long while, since my car is a DD. Since I made the original set of modifed control arms, I've racked up 60K+. Probably put 40K on the trailing arms at this point.
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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

Geeeeesh, I had been looking forward to getting a set of those this Spring. They were reasonably priced and I wanted to put some on this spring. Crap. Are the tubulars going to be more expensive?
 


Yes, but should still be reasonable. You have to remember that for the reworked LCA's alone you need hardware, bearings, spacers, ball joints, and bushings...let alone spare cores. Most cores come in so rusty and messed up they have to be ground down, wire brushed, then sandblasted before powdercoating. So it's a double whammy of Labor and materials. A lot of prep work is cut out making them from scratch, but the materials costs go up a bit. It will be more, but should be in the same ballpark.

The big plus is the weight savings, and should be about 5#'s per control arm. This should help the ride out quite a bit.
 
Well crapola. I sure wish I had a good set of LCA's to send in if they were still being done. Mine aren't rusted at all and are in pretty good shape actually. I guess I'll have to wait and see what the tubular ones run. The stock modified ones were close to being out of my range, but I guess I'll have to save a bit more.
 
I have the LCA's and after fixing the ball joint, they are outstanding. Same concept as the control arm braces without the welding. If you make some tubular arms, I might have the LCA's for sale!
 


It will only be chromoly, I wouldn't make it with anything else. You can run a thinner wall to keep weight down, but still have the strength.
 
traction aid= push button oil dry dispenser in front of each wheel? that'd get some traction

:D:D:D

just kiddin!


heh
 
In high school, I had a washer pump run to squirters at the back wheels of my Toyota (RWD). You can always spray your own VHT that way. I did it to do smoky burnouts leaving school (20 years ago, lol)
 
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