TOGs installed.
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GeddyLee
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Ahemmmmmmm
No?
Why no? Well for the simple fact the car is still 3 years away from being paid off, and its my daily driver. Though the thought of running a nice XP Cam or VS cam sounds good in all, I just dont want that in a DD. Maybe in a couple of years I will change my mind or least until I can procure a beater DD, then maybe I would consider it
GeddyLee
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The only problem I am having with the new setup is that I keep getting P1133 codes. Even after fixing the melted wiring I am throwing that code, I clear it and it just comes back. From what I have looked up for the P1133 code for our cars is that due to the very high flowing SLP cat, the sensor basically cant keep up with the flow of exhaust out off the TOGs and through the cat.
Any other input would be great! I am not running it hard till I figure out that issue, besides my tune is such a mutt right now, and with the 1.9m rockers and now the TOGs, the car really has not been properly tuned to match up that configuration.
Any other input would be great! I am not running it hard till I figure out that issue, besides my tune is such a mutt right now, and with the 1.9m rockers and now the TOGs, the car really has not been properly tuned to match up that configuration.
IndeedSS
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James, with a hi flo cat the code for the post cat O2 sensor may be set. It appears the one you have is for the front sensor.
Here is the info for the p1133.
The heated oxygen sensor (HO2S) is a sensor designed to create a voltage relative to the oxygen content in the engine exhaust stream. The control module supplies the HO2S with signal high and low circuits. Ignition voltage and ground are supplied to the HO2S heater by independent circuits. The oxygen content of the exhaust indicates when the engine is operating lean or rich. When the HO2S detects that the engine is operating rich, the signal voltage is high, and decreases the signal voltage as the engine runs leaner. This oscillation above and below the bias voltage, sometimes referred to as activity or switching, can be monitored with the HO2S signal voltage.
The HO2S contains a heater that is necessary in order to quickly warm the sensor to operating temperature. The heater also maintains the operating temperature during extended idle conditions. The HO2S needs to be at a high temperature in order to produce a voltage. When the HO2S reaches operating temperature, the control module monitors the HO2S bias, or reference, voltage. It also monitors the HO2S signal voltage for Closed Loop fuel control. During normal Closed Loop fuel control operation, the control module will add fuel, or enrich the mixture, when the HO2S detects a lean exhaust content. The control module will subtract fuel, or "lean-out" the mixture, when the HO2S detects a rich exhaust condition.
Certain vehicle models utilize an oxygen sensor behind the catalytic converter in order to monitor catalyst efficiency.
This diagnostic trouble code (DTC) determines if the HO2S is functioning properly. It checks for an adequate number of HO2S voltage transitions above and below the bias range of 300-600 mV. This DTC sets when the vehicle control module (VCM) fails to detect a minimum number of voltage transitions above and below the bias range during the test period. Possible causes of this DTC are:
An open or a short to voltage on either the HO2S signal or HO2S low circuits
A malfunctioning HO2S
A problem in the HO2S heater or its circuit
A faulty HO2S ground
This DTC is designed to detect an HO2S that produces too few lean to rich and rich to lean signal transitions within a calibrated time window.
Conditions for Setting the DTC
The number of lean-to-rich and rich-to-lean transitions within a 100 second sample period were less than a calibrated number.
Action Taken When the DTC Sets
The control module illuminates the malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) if a failure is detected during 2 consecutive key cycles.
The control module sets the DTC and records the operating conditions at the time the diagnostic failed. The failure information is stored in the scan tool Freeze Frame/Failure Records.
Conditions for Clearing the MIL or DTC
The control module turns OFF the MIL after 3 consecutive drive trips when the test has run and passed.
A history DTC will clear if no fault conditions have been detected for 40 warm-up cycles. A warm-up cycle occurs when the coolant temperature has risen 22°C (40°F) from the startup coolant temperature and the engine coolant reaches a temperature that is more than 70°C (158°F) during the same ignition cycle.
Use a scan tool in order to clear the DTCs.
Common failures that can cause this is the oxygen sensor bank 1 sensor 1 for a v6 or the sensor 1 on a 4 cylinder or the associated wiring. Again the class2 scan tool will be needed to properly diagnose this. Feel free to contact me with any questions or if you would prefer a second opinion. Good luck!
Here is the info for the p1133.
The heated oxygen sensor (HO2S) is a sensor designed to create a voltage relative to the oxygen content in the engine exhaust stream. The control module supplies the HO2S with signal high and low circuits. Ignition voltage and ground are supplied to the HO2S heater by independent circuits. The oxygen content of the exhaust indicates when the engine is operating lean or rich. When the HO2S detects that the engine is operating rich, the signal voltage is high, and decreases the signal voltage as the engine runs leaner. This oscillation above and below the bias voltage, sometimes referred to as activity or switching, can be monitored with the HO2S signal voltage.
The HO2S contains a heater that is necessary in order to quickly warm the sensor to operating temperature. The heater also maintains the operating temperature during extended idle conditions. The HO2S needs to be at a high temperature in order to produce a voltage. When the HO2S reaches operating temperature, the control module monitors the HO2S bias, or reference, voltage. It also monitors the HO2S signal voltage for Closed Loop fuel control. During normal Closed Loop fuel control operation, the control module will add fuel, or enrich the mixture, when the HO2S detects a lean exhaust content. The control module will subtract fuel, or "lean-out" the mixture, when the HO2S detects a rich exhaust condition.
Certain vehicle models utilize an oxygen sensor behind the catalytic converter in order to monitor catalyst efficiency.
This diagnostic trouble code (DTC) determines if the HO2S is functioning properly. It checks for an adequate number of HO2S voltage transitions above and below the bias range of 300-600 mV. This DTC sets when the vehicle control module (VCM) fails to detect a minimum number of voltage transitions above and below the bias range during the test period. Possible causes of this DTC are:
An open or a short to voltage on either the HO2S signal or HO2S low circuits
A malfunctioning HO2S
A problem in the HO2S heater or its circuit
A faulty HO2S ground
This DTC is designed to detect an HO2S that produces too few lean to rich and rich to lean signal transitions within a calibrated time window.
Conditions for Setting the DTC
The number of lean-to-rich and rich-to-lean transitions within a 100 second sample period were less than a calibrated number.
Action Taken When the DTC Sets
The control module illuminates the malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) if a failure is detected during 2 consecutive key cycles.
The control module sets the DTC and records the operating conditions at the time the diagnostic failed. The failure information is stored in the scan tool Freeze Frame/Failure Records.
Conditions for Clearing the MIL or DTC
The control module turns OFF the MIL after 3 consecutive drive trips when the test has run and passed.
A history DTC will clear if no fault conditions have been detected for 40 warm-up cycles. A warm-up cycle occurs when the coolant temperature has risen 22°C (40°F) from the startup coolant temperature and the engine coolant reaches a temperature that is more than 70°C (158°F) during the same ignition cycle.
Use a scan tool in order to clear the DTCs.
Common failures that can cause this is the oxygen sensor bank 1 sensor 1 for a v6 or the sensor 1 on a 4 cylinder or the associated wiring. Again the class2 scan tool will be needed to properly diagnose this. Feel free to contact me with any questions or if you would prefer a second opinion. Good luck!
GeddyLee
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Damn Lee!!! You are da Man!!! :th_thumb-up:
Ok so that could mean that possibly I am running in either a rich or lean condition? More than likely rich I am guessing? Hopefully Dave or someone down in Branson can figure that out before we hit the track I dont wish to blow baby up on the first one or two 
Ok so that could mean that possibly I am running in either a rich or lean condition? More than likely rich I am guessing? Hopefully Dave or someone down in Branson can figure that out before we hit the track
I dont wish to blow baby up on the first one or two 
blueguy
The Blue One
Damn Lee!!! You are da Man!!! :th_thumb-up:
Ok so that could mean that possibly I am running in either a rich or lean condition? More than likely rich I am guessing? Hopefully Dave or someone down in Branson can figure that out before we hit the track
Have Brian tune it:th_biggrin2:
Or Jeremy (Pity410) on KCPMC:th_thumbsup-wink:
IndeedSS
SS-DD Level Member
Damn Lee!!! You are da Man!!! :th_thumb-up:
Ok so that could mean that possibly I am running in either a rich or lean condition? More than likely rich I am guessing? Hopefully Dave or someone down in Branson can figure that out before we hit the track
Just lookin out for ya! It's a nice ride and I know you want it to last.
It could be a result from the melted wires. For some reason the copper in the O2 sensor pigtail is very sensitive to change in resistance. I doubt it's a tuning issue.
GeddyLee
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Ok I ordered from ZZP a new front O2 Sensor and O2 Ext wiring harness, plus 2 gallons of Dex 6 and a new tranny gasket as well. Now I am stocked up on the parts I need
Hopefully they will arrive before Branson, if not? ggrrrrrrr
IndeedSS
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Ok I ordered from ZZP a new front O2 Sensor and O2 Ext wiring harness, plus 2 gallons of Dex 6 and a new tranny gasket as well. Now I am stocked up on the parts I need
Hopefully they will arrive before Branson, if not? ggrrrrrrr
Good man. You'll likely have that stuff on Monday. If you need a hand let me know. I also have my HPTuners in case you need to see the whole picture. Other than that, I'm pretty useless, but love to observe, question people to death, and point out their mistakes. :th_laugh-lol3:
GeddyLee
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Well Monday's the holiday and I doubt UPS will deliver then. So more than likely Tuesday, I got my email today from Zoomer saying my stuff has shipped. I need to get one of those O2 socket things. Cause where the sensor sits now on the collector, its wedged between the sway bar and the collector and I could not really get my regular wrenches around it.
But I am sure I will be dialing if need be But do you have the 2003 GP License on your HP? I can't remember if you do or not?
But I am sure I will be dialing if need be
But do you have the 2003 GP License on your HP? I can't remember if you do or not?
IndeedSS
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Well Monday's the holiday and I doubt UPS will deliver then. So more than likely Tuesday, I got my email today from Zoomer saying my stuff has shipped. I need to get one of those O2 socket things. Cause where the sensor sits now on the collector, its wedged between the sway bar and the collector and I could not really get my regular wrenches around it.
But I am sure I will be dialing if need be
I have O2 sockets, and while I can't edit your bin I can do the scanning. This may be helpful in the event there are still code issues etc. If you wind up needing help I'm available, if not I know things have gone well.
Forgot about Monday being a holiday.
justwhisen
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sounds really nice.