Tables! What tables!

[Frosty]

Im currently setting up the initial tune for my soon to ssm90ed 2001 gt. I am doing a 2 bar map conversion so I can run a gtp bin but for the life of me I cant figure out what VE table to use? Im going to start with the gtp timing table and I cant seam to find the map sensor table so i guess ill leave that also but I cant figure out what flippin ve table to use.... the zzp ssm90 tune ve table is differnt the the gtp ve table which is differnt from my gt ve table.... What should I use as a starting point so it at least runs for me to street tune it?

 

[matt5112]

if using hpt, you need to start with a GTP bin.

 

[Frosty]

Gtp table in my gtp bin it is then. Any idea if a 01 gtp bin will be happy with a 2004 gtp map sensor? They are both 2 bar and I just bought the newer one because it was plug and play vs having to splice a connector

 

[BillBoost37]

You should/can VE tune once it's running. It's understandable that the table would be different than GTP/GT because it's a high compression charged table that you are looking for. GTP is low compression charged and GT is high compression non charged.

 

[darkhorizon]

You should/can VE tune once it's running. It's understandable that the table would be different than GTP/GT because it's a high compression charged table that you are looking for. GTP is low compression charged and GT is high compression non charged.

Sorry, it doesnt quite work that way.

OP, just flash a stock GTP file and be done with it... there is nothing to tune. I may suggest pulling the timing back a few degrees and or adding a bit of fuel using the base PE v coolant temp table (stock is around 12.5, drop it to around 12.0-12.1).

 

[BillBoost37]

Oh, I'm sorry you don't agree Scott. There's a lot of different ideas about VE and whether it's useful or useless in certain pcm's/tunes. I know you aren't a subscriber to it. That's totally cool. In the past I have taken the time to VE one car and it did make a difference. Based on the question, do you have a better reason as to why ZZP used a different VE table than a GTP or GT and where they might have gotten that table?

 

[Frosty]

All I currently changed were the maf table. Injector settings for 60lb. Pe set to 11.5 (being safe till i get stuff dialed in) My personal transmission tables. Speedo cal. Fan / ac settings. And my personal kr / torque management settings.


Side note: flashed the gtp bin for a minute just to see BOOST on my swapped dic.... big mistake because I can't wait to get it installed now.

 

[darkhorizon]

Oh, I'm sorry you don't agree Scott. There's a lot of different ideas about VE and whether it's useful or useless in certain pcm's/tunes. I know you aren't a subscriber to it. That's totally cool. In the past I have taken the time to VE one car and it did make a difference. Based on the question, do you have a better reason as to why ZZP used a different VE table than a GTP or GT and where they might have gotten that table?

VE tables vary from year to year, osid to osid, GT/GTP... There is no "rhyme or reason" to their selection either.

and also, "making a difference" is quite opinionated, if your air fuel is wrong, its wrong.. if its right its right... a narrowband is not going to offer even a small glimpse of these 'differences" and a wideband would struggle even more to see these.

There's a lot of different ideas about VE

There are alot of different ideas about why the world is going to end next week, does it make the my prediction of "the world isnt going to end" wrong?