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Springs loose?



you can see signs of it with a scanner. if the map pressure goes up and the maf hz goes down, then valve float could be happening. or is it vice versa?
 
That valve has to be broken, to allow the retainers to slip off the groves and loosen the spring.

Replace the valve for sure.
 
DanPrixGTP said:
That valve has to be broken, to allow the retainers to slip off the groves and loosen the spring.

Replace the valve for sure.
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look closer, the valve seal is holding the retainer up and the locks in, that stem is a 1/2 longer some how. like its cracked inside the guide.
 
Yeah I think if he would have taken the rocker all the way off, it would have been obvious. That or flipped the head over. I'm just baffled, because it seems like he has seen the valve in place inside the cc. So I keep trying to guess wtf is going on. Maybe the valve broke and simultaneously jammed into the seat locking it in, so it looks like it's still intact. Lol, suspense is killing me.
 


Horrible looking valve seals. And how did you manage to break a valve ? 2nd , how did you manage to break a valve and NOT notice ? Geez man that sucks. I feel bad for ya - hope there isn't any damge
Putting new seals on , I like to use a deep 10mm socket and tap down the seals until they seat.

I would check the rear head as well


edit - I just re read your post. You already pulled the head and the valve hasn't fallen out yet? Now I'm confused
 
Not by the head to take more pics.. Sorry guys lol but the car was running fine i just wanted to replace the head gasket and found that... Lol honest...guess i caught it before it got bad... But i'll pop the spring off replace the valve seal and valve and throw the spring back on her spring is fine Motor is fine checked pistons when i pulled head off no problem..no knocking... Pinging nothing.. I'll check the rear head today when i get bck to the car
 
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You went to the Tyler school of breaking stuff ...didn't you?

Something is very wrong there, and it's not the spring.
 
BillBoost37 said:
You went to the Tyler school of breaking stuff ...didn't you?

Something is very wrong there, and it's not the spring.
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Lol @ bill... Honestly i just was replacing my already used head gasket lol ima just replace the valve and the seat. I have a extra set of heads laying around with low miles.. I might just use those
 


bandook said:
Did you pull that valve yet? Pics of carnage?
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Still at work... Finishing a night shift.. Be off soon and i will grab a couple pics... But the spring is fine thats all i care about... Valves can be replace easy the springs i dont feel like ordering and waiting for..
 
spring looks fine, that valve is a 1/2 inch taller then the ones next to it.

that other head you have maybe a good idea to use.
 


ScottyDoggs said:
spring looks fine, that valve is a 1/2 inch taller then the ones next to it.

that other head you have maybe a good idea to use.
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Yeah easy fix rather that then ordering new springs.. :( scottydoggs could i use the seals too from the other head? Or get new ones?
 
you could re use em, but new seals are cheap and easy to do, ( and im guessing your swapping the springs from one head to the other, so your there already) make sure the post you slide them onto its dry and clean. you should have to push rather hard, or use a 10 mm deep socket and tap them on. no idea how yours came off. un less they were really wet with oil maybe when installed.

i used felpro seals 2 times now. both times i had to tap em on.
 
1st pic. The spring that's not compressed shows threads and the rocker isn't tight against the plate. Rocker bolt looks loose?

2nd pic. The spring that is compressed looks like that bolt head isn't tight in the rocker either.

Were either rockers tightened? Both look loose and the one is just compressed a bit from where the pushrod is.
 
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