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[BoiseGTP]

Canada?

Long gun registry is a waste of time.

Many of the weapons that are unregistered and used in crime in Canada are from the United States.

Sorry Matt, I'm not as familiar with Canada and their crime rates. I was referring to Endland, Austrailia, and some countries that have actually banned all firearms. Gun advocates will always refer to countries that have taken a hard line and show the results. The violent crimes rates are higher.

 

[burgundybullet]

I personally dont understand what all this carrying on is about. Nobody said anything about "taking away our guns", it's another case of a few media outlets blew it all out of proportion, misrepresented some facts, and then it got carried by the wind and a lot of people now regard it as fact. Like almost anything remotely controversial that happens in the world these days.

Look, I grew up around guns, I live in semi-rural Pennsylvania... we have more guns than people I think. My dad introduced me to his pistols when I was like 7 and he taught me safety and respect for the weapon. We went to target practice when I was a kid more times than I can count and I got good with semi-automatic pistols as as well as a few revolvers. I have 10 pistols and 3 rifles in my house at the moment. So trust me, I fully believe in our right to possess fire arms.

The legislation that's currently being worked on will focus on a ban of assault rifles, as well as high volume magazines. Seriously, wtf do you need an AR-15 for? For giggles? Is that worth getting all preachy and activist about? Nobody in the general public needs to have an automatic assault rifle in their gun closet at home. And no sporting goods outlet needs to carry them. And sure as hell nobody needs a high volume magazine. Another part of the bill is going to be a crack down on things like waiting periods, background checks, and I think most importantly of all mental health screenings.

It's far too easy for someone who has led a clean life to snap one day and pass background checks with ease, then go fetch a few different machine guns and in a few days be going to town at the local mall or school.

And people will cry, "This wont solve the issue!" No, but it will help leaps and bounds, it's a start. Steps have to be taken about this, and compromise will be the only avenue to get us to a place where we're all a little safer, and still have our liberties. Part of this is going to be on parents locking up and keeping an eye on their weapons better. Part of this is going to be on kids watching each other at school.

This whole thing about "dey takin r guns!!!" is just crazy, do you really think that anyone in government actually believes they could get away with a full on ban on fire arms or anything even close to it? It wont happen in this country, and everyone with half a brain knows it, 75-90% of this country has a strong romance with anything that goes bang. It's a panic that those who have something to lose in this (NRA, Big gun retailers) to try to create a backlash against any kind of meaningful reform. Look back in the past, every time some high profile shooting happens, the NRA, etc stands up and says, "WE MUST DO SOMETHING!" then a discussion starts to take place, and then the same groups stand up and say "THEY'RE GUNNA TAKE OUR GUNS!!! DONT LET EM!!!" and then the whole discussion gets shut down until the next lunatic kills some school children or innocent people in a public place, and it all repeats. Every. Time.

You're not going to lose anything unless you plan on buying assault rifles, or you plan on getting a gun while you're mentally unstable or if for some crazy reason you want to carry a gun with 2,000 rounds in it at once. The Gestapo isnt coming to your house to confiscate your right to defend yourself, you probably wont even lose anything you already owned, you'll be grandfathered in.

I agree with most of what you said and see where you are coming from on the rest. Your point about needing a high volume magazine or assualt rifle is valid and I respect your view. I honestly don't have either of those and I probably never will. How I see it is that there are people out there that have/ collect guns as a hobby. It is much like the car enthusiest in many ways. There are people that look at cars and say that goes way above the speed limit so why not make a law that says all vehicals are governed at 75mph? This would cause a massive problem and I'm sure you would be seeing many threads on this site about it. I'm sure if the government started taking steps to prevent you from working on a car to make it faster you would cringe. They might just be small steps at first and hardly noticeable to many but overtime it will turn into bigger steps and before you know it most modifications would be illegal. I feel that with guns it is very similar. If you start by taking away something that most people never use, mostly everyone will be okay with that. Then before you know it the laws are being tweaked and suddenly your .308 or 30-06 or whatever you used for deer season last year may not be legal to own anymore.





Getting rid of guns all together is definitely a terrible idea. When you are walking down the street next time look at all the houses. You have no idea if they have a gun or not in there. That thought might be scary to some people. How I see it is that if guns were completely outlawed criminals would likely look at every house and think "I might rob that place. They have no guns or weapons because they are illegal". This would leave most people as sitting ducks for criminals expecially if the criminal has a gun.

I know that the NRA recently took up this issue by saying "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun." Immediately after I heard this I thought about it and how true it was. I pictured a guy hiding behind a table with beer bottles by his side popping up every once and a while to throw a beer bottle at the robber to protect himself because guns are illegal to own while the robber is holding a gun and shooting. Obviously my imagination played a slight role in that but I hope it helps illustrate my point.

 

[reesez]

the wife says everyone needs an ar15 because of the zombie apocalypse lmao. shes ate up.

 

[RooK]

If you start by taking away something that most people never use, mostly everyone will be okay with that. Then before you know it the laws are being tweaked and suddenly your .308 or 30-06 or whatever you used for deer season last year may not be legal to own anymore.

This reminds me... One of the provisions in the proposed legislature was to ban all military chamberings from the civilian market. Lets have a run down of this, shall we? .223/5.56, 5.45x39, 6.5Grndl, 6.8SPC, .308/7.62x51, .30-06, 7.62x39, .50 BMG. Now handguns... 9x18 Makarov, 9mm Luger, .45 ACP. These are just ones I know of off the top of my head.

Damn, I think we just banned over half of the most popular cartridges in use today and just destroyed all the affordable sources of ammo.

 

[stealthee]

 

[reesez]

This reminds me... One of the provisions in the proposed legislature was to ban all military chamberings from the civilian market. Lets have a run down of this, shall we? .223/5.56, 5.45x39, 6.5Grndl, 6.8SPC, .308/7.62x51, .30-06, 7.62x39, .50 BMG. Now handguns... 9x18 Makarov, 9mm Luger, .45 ACP. These are just ones I know of off the top of my head.

Damn, I think we just banned over half of the most popular cartridges in use today and just destroyed all the affordable sources of ammo.

45 GAP doesnt look so bad now does it lol

 

[UR LOSN]

Chicago is the basis for gun control reform........ chicago..also number 1 in gun crime. lets all ban cocaine and marijuana too while we are at it.

people have no common sense anymore

 

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[reesez]

lol