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Problems Starting after Engine Replacement.

Metallistar

New member
Ok, a while back I Lost Cyl #4 in my 97 GTP with 180k on the clock. So after a call to Ed I have a 02 Regal L67 and Trans. Drop it in and hook everything up. But now when I go to start it, it just keeps turning over, I can hear the fuel pump priming(primed multiple times) but it wont fire.

Am I missing something?
 


check ignition module, pcm may need to be programmed for that engine (I had one from a riviera that had to be programed, but one from a camaro didn't)
 
did you keep the 97 pcm and engine harness? if you did, then you needed to swap the sensors in the motor you put in. the electrics are different in the 97 cars. either that or swap the pcm and wiring harness for an 02.
 
I kept the 97 PCM and harness but I do have a N* and LQ4 MAF and tune for that. Does anyone know what other sensors need to be swapped?
 
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isnt the ckp different? did the motor come with a balancer too? how about the icm/cmp/ckp harness? if so, that harness could be bad if you used it.

have a scanner? any codes? could possibly be a theft problem?
 
The plugs arnt getting spark.

The engine came with a balancer(full drop out from charger to oil pan). I've tried swapping the following:

ICM, Coil Packs, ICM wire harness.

Could the Crank Posistion Sensor in the 02 Regal Engine be causing the problem of no spark?
 
crank sensor is same part number for both according to partsamerica.com


the sensor may be the same, but i think perhaps it is the pcm harness pinout that is different.

you need to get ahold of the 02 regal pcm pinout and the 97 pinout for your pcm and compare/swap pins around.
 
here is the pinout reference for the 97. ill get the 02 in a second...

Document ID# 106977
1997 Pontiac Grand Prix


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Engine Controls Connector End Views
PCM 80-Way Blue Connector C1 Details



Connector Part Information
Blue PCM Connector C1

Body - 12160549
TPA - 12160569
Terminals - 12084913
Shield - 12160921

Pin
Wire Color
Circuit No.
Function
Component Connector Cavity
DTC(s) Affected
Possible Symptoms From a Faulty Circuit

1
--
--
--
--
--
--

2
--
--
--
--
--
--

3
--
--
--
--
--
--

4
Lt Blu/Blk
647
18X Reference
ICM C
P0336
Intermittent fault will cause engine miss/cut-out, Inoperative Tachometer

5
Blk
630
Camshaft Position PCM Input
ICM F
P0341
Intermittent fault will cause engine miss/cut-out

6
Yel
400
VSS High
VSS B
P0502
Speedometer inoperative, late/harsh shifting, chuggle

Cruise Control Disabled

7
Red/ Blk
1230
Automatic Transmission Input (Shaft) Speed Sensor (AT ISS Sensor) (VIN 1 Only )
Transmission Connector S
P0716/P0717
Refer to 4T65-E Automatic Transaxle Diagnosis

8
Dk Grn/Wht
465
Fuel Pump Relay
Fuel Pump Relay 85/A5
None
Stall/no start

9
Lt Blu/Wht
1747
IAC A High
IAC C
P0506/P0507
High or low idle, stalling

10
Lt Grn/Blk
444
IAC B Low
IAC B
P0506/P0507
High or low idle, stalling

11
Lt Blu/Blk
1748
IAC A Low
IAC D
P0506/P0507
High or low idle, stalling

12
Lt Grn/Wht
1749
IAC B High
IAC A
P0506/P0507
High or low idle, stalling

13
Dk Grn/Wht
817
4K/Mi Speed
Go to Vehicle Speed Sensor, Cruise
None
Speedometer inoperative, Cruise Control inoperative

14
Orn/Blk
463
Traction Control Desired Torque (With Traction Control System RPO NW9 Only )
EBTCM Connector C3 Cavity B
P1571
Traction Control disabled, Traction OFF Lamp illuminated

15
Tan
800
Serial Data
Go to Power, Ground, MIL, DLC
--
--

16
Gry
416
5 Volt Reference A
TP Sensor C, MAP Sensor C, and EGR Valve D
P1635, P0101, P0122, P1107, P1122, P1406
Late shifting, incorrect/rough idle, stalling, surging

17
Gry
474
5 Volt Reference B
A/C Refrigerant Pressure Sensor B, Fuel Tank Pressure Sensor C
P1639, P0530
A/C compressor inoperative

18
--
--
--
--
--
--

19
Pnk
439
Ignition Feed
Go to Power, Ground, MIL, DLC
P0560
No start

20
Orn
540
Battery Feed
Go to Power, Ground, MIL, DLC
P0560
No start

21
Blk/Wht
451
PCM Ground
Go to Power, Ground, MIL, DLC
None
Intermittent symptoms

22
Brn
418
TCC PWM Solenoid Driver
Transaxle Connector C (VIN K), T (VIN 1)
P1860
Refer to 4T60-E(Vin K)

4T65-E(Vin1)

23
Gry
1724
Boost Control Solenoid (ODM A Output 5) (VIN 1 Only )
Boost Control Solenoid B
P1645, P1257
Rough Idle, Reduced Performance

24
--
--
--
--
--
--

25
Brn/Wht
419
MIL Driver
Go to Power, Ground, MIL, DLC
P1641
No MIL, MIL ON Steady

26
--
--
--
--
--
--

27
Lt Grn
497
Fuel Pump Speed Control (VIN 1 Only )
Fuel Pump Speed Control Relay 85/A3
P1643
Noisy fuel pump (Pump operates in high speed only ), Lean condition during high load conditions (Pump operates in normal speed only )

28
Tan/Blk
422
TCC Enable Solenoid Driver (VIN K Only )
Transaxle Connector D
P1860
Refer to 4T60-E AutomaticTransaxle Diagnosis

29
Gry
435
EGR Control
EGR Valve A
P1406, P1635
Incorrect/rough idle, lack of power, chuggle

30
Dk Grn/Wht
428
EVAP Canister Purge Driver
EVAP Canister Purge Solenoid B
P1655, P0441, P1441
Rough idle

31
Dk Blu
473
Fan 2 Driver (High Speed)
Go to Coolant Fans schematic
P1652
High Speed Fans inoperative, High Speed Secondary Fan ON all the time, incorrect idle, possible overheating condition

32
Dk Grn
335
Fan 1 Driver (Low Speed)
Go to Coolant Fans schematic
P1651
Low Speed Fans inoperative, Low Speed Fans ON all the time, incorrect idle, possible overheating condition

33
--
--
--
--
--
--

34
--
--
--
--
--
--

35
Dk Grn/Wht
459
A/C Compressor Clutch Relay Driver
A/C Compressor Relay F8/86
P1654
Incorrect/rough idle A/C compressor inoperative

36
--
--
--
--
--
--

37
--
--
--
--
--
--

38
--
--
--
--
--
--

39
--
--
--
--
--
--

40
--
--
--
--
--
--

41
--
--
--
--
--
--

42
--
--
--
--
--
--

43
--
--
--
--
--
--

44
Ppl/wht
430
3X Reference
ICM D
P1374
Stalls, sets DTC on restart

45
Red/Blk
453
Reference Low
ICM L
--
Intermittent Symptoms

46
Dk Blu/Wht
1231
Automatic Transmission Input (Shaft) Speed Sensor (A/T ISS Sensor) (VIN 1 Only )
Transmission Connector V
P0716/P0717
Refer to 4T65-E Automatic Transaxle Diagnosis

47
Ppl
401
VSS Low
VSS / TOSS A
P0503F
Speedometer inoperative, late/harsh shifting, chuggle, Cruise Control Disabled

48
--
--
--
--
--
--

49
--
--
--
--
--
--

50
--
--
--
--
--
--

51
--
--
--
--
--
--

52
Tan/Blk
424
Bypass
ICM B
P1361
Incorrect/rough idle, lack of power

53
Wht
423
Ignition Control (IC)
ICM A
P1350, P1361
Incorrect/rough idle, lack of power

54
Yel
492
MAF Signal
MAF Sensor A
P0101, P0102, P0103
Reduced performance

55
Dk Blu
229
Theft Deterrent
Theft Deterrent A3
1626/1629
Stall/No Start

56
Blk
452
Sensor Ground
ECT Sensor A, TP Sensor A, MAP Sensor A, IAT Sensor A, A/C Refrigerant Pressure Sensor A, EGR Valve B, Transmission Connector G (VIN K) M (VIN 1)
P0108, P0118, P0123, P0530, P0713, P1106, P1115, P1121, P1406
Incorrect/rough idle, lack of power late/harsh shifting, chuggle, A/C compressor inoperative, Fuel gauge inoperative

57
--
--
--
--
--
--

58
--
--
--
--
--
--

59
Dk Grn
1809
Class 2 Data
DLC 2
None
No scan tool data

60
Blk/Wht
451
PCM Ground

None
Intermittent symptoms

61
--
--
--
--
--
--

62
Dk Grn/Wht
762
A/C Request
A/C Controller Connector C2 Cavity B
P0530
A/C Compressor inoperative

63
--
--
--
--
--
--

64
--
--
--
--
--
--

65
--
--
--
--
--
--

66
Ppl
1986
EVAP Canister Purge Vacuum Switch B
P1441
--

67
Ppl
420
TCC Brake Switch
TCC Brake Switch D
--
Refer to 4T60-E (VIN K) / 4T65-E (VIN 1) AutomaticTransaxle Diagnosis

68
Pnk
339
EGR Ignition Positive Voltage
Go to Engine Data Sensors-A/C Refrigerant Pressure, TP, MAP, ECT, IAT
P0401, P1406, P0133, P0135, P0141
Fuse blown, EGR Pintle Position error on scan tool varies excessively

69
Blk/Wht
771
Transaxle Range Signal A
Trans Range / Park Neutral Position Switch D
P0705, P0706
Idle flare when clutch is disengaged

70
Brn
1174
Engine Oil Level Switch
Oil Level Switch A
--
Low Oil Lamp ON for 7 minute after startup

71
--
--
--
--
--
--

72
776
Wht
Transaxle Range Signal P
Trans Range / Park Neutral Position Switch A
P0705, P0706
PCM defaults to D4 Gear select Position

73
--
--
--
--
--
--

74
--
--
--
--
--
--

75
Wht
85
Cruise Status
SMCC II Cruise Control Module J
P1554
--

76
--
--
--
--
--
--

77
--
--
--
--
--
--

78
--
--
--
--
--
--

79
--
--
--
--
--
--

80
--
--
--
--
--
--

PCM 80-Way Clear Connector C2 Details



Connector Part Information
Clear PCM Connector C2

Body - 12160549
TPA - 1216056A
Terminals - 12084913
Shield - 12160921

Pin
Wire Color
Circuit No.
Function
Component Connector Cavity
DTC(s) Affected
Possible Symptoms From a Faulty Circuit

1
--
--
--
--
--
--

2
--
--
--
--
--
--

3
--
--
--
--
--
--

4
--
--
--
--
--
--

5
--
--
--
--
--
--

6
--
--
--
--
--
--

7
Brn/Wht
1173
Oil Oil level Lamp Control
Go to Indicator Lamps
DTC 1672
No Oil Lamp,Lamp On Steady

8
Gry
803
Change Oil Soon Lamp Control
Go to Indicator Lamps
--
No Oil Lamp,Lamp On Steady

9
Wht
121
Tachometer Indicator Control
Go to Indicator Lamps
--
Inoperative Tachometer

10
Dk Grn
35
Hot Lamp
Go to Indicator Lamps
DTC 1673
No Oil Lamp,Lamp On Steady

11
Lt Grn
1222
Shift Solenoid A Driver
Transmission Connector A
P0753
Refer to 4T60-E (VIN K) / 4T65-E (VIN 1) Automatic Transaxle Diagnosis

12
Lt Grn
432
Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor
MAP Sensor B
P0107, P0108, P1106, P1107
Default Manifold Absolute Pressure and BARO

13
Dk Grn
83
Cruise Inhibit Driver
SMCC II Cruise Control Module H
P1662
Cruise Control inoperative

14
--
--
--
--
--
--

15
--
--
--
--
--
--

16
Brn
25
Generator Lamp Control
Go to Indicator Lamps
DTC 1663
No Oil Lamp,Lamp On Steady

17
Yel/Blk
1223
Shift Solenoid B Driver
Transmission Connector B
P0758
Refer to 4T60-E (VIN K) / 4T65-E (VIN 1) Automatic Transaxle Diagnosis

18
--
--
--
--
--
--

19
--
--
--
--
--
--

20
Lt Blu/Wht
1229
Pressure Control Solenoid Valve low
Solenoid D
P0748
Refer to 4T65-E Automatic Transaxle Diagnosis

21
Blk/Wht
451
PCM Ground
Go to Indicator Lamps
None
Intermittent Symptoms

22
Pnk/Blk
1746
Injector Cylinder 3
Injector Connector B
P1200, P0300
Incorrect/Rough Idle, Missing, Flashing MIL

23
Yel
772
Transaxle Range Signal B
Trans Range / Park Neutral Position Switch B
P0705, P0706
--

24
Lt Grn/Blk
1745
Injector Cylinder 2
Injector ConnectorB
P1200, P0300
Incorrect/Rough Idle, Missing, Flashing MIL

25
Gry
773
Transaxle Range Signal C
Trans Range / Park Neutral Position Switch C
P0705, P0706
--

26
Blk
1744
Injector Cylinder 1
Injector Connector B
P1200, P0300
Incorrect/Rough Idle, Missing, Flashing MIL

27
Pnk
1224
Trans Fluid Pressure Switch A Input
Transmission Connector N
--
Refer to 4T65-E Automatic Transaxle Diagnosis

28
Yel/Blk
846
Injector Cylinder 6
Injector Connector B
P1200, P0300
Incorrect/Rough Idle, Missing, Flashing MIL

29
Dk Blu
1225
Trans Fluid Pressure Switch B Input
Transmission Connector R
--
Refer to 4T65-E Automatic Transaxle Diagnosis

30
Blk/Wht
845
Injector Cylinder 5
Injector Connector B
P1200, P0300
Incorrect/Rough Idle, Missing, Flashing MIL

31
Red
1226
Trans Fluid Pressure Switch C Input
Transmission Connector P
--
Refer to 4T65-E Automatic Transaxle Diagnosis

32
Lt Blu/Blk
844
Injector Cylinder 4
Injector Connector B
P1200, P0300
Incorrect/Rough Idle, Missing, Flashing MIL

33
Dk Blu
1493
Performance Shift switch Input
Sw A

Refer to 4T65-E Automatic Transaxle Diagnosis

34
--
--
--
--
--
--

35
Red
225
Generator Control
Generator L
P0560
Charging system inoperative, Generator lamp commanded ON

36
--
--
--
--
--
--

37
--
--
--
--
--
--

38
--
--
--
--
--
--

39
--
--
--
--
--
--

40
--
--
--
--
--
--

41
--
--
--
--
--
--

42
--
--
--
--
--
--

43
--
--
--
--
--
--

44
--
--
--
--
--
--

45
Ppl
412
HO2S 1 Signal
HO2S 1 B
P0131, P0132, P0133, P0134
Open loop fuel control, incorrect/rough idle

46
Tan
413
HO2S 1 Low
HO2S 1 A
P0134
Open loop fuel control, incorrect/rough idle

47
Ppl/Wht
1668
HO2S 2 Signal
HO2S 2 B
P0137, P0138, P0140
--

48
Tan/Wht
1669
HO2S 2 Low
HO2S 2 A
P0140
--

49
--
--
--
--
--
--

50
--
--
--
--
--
--

51
Tan
472
Intake Air Temperature Sensor
IAT Sensor B
P0112, P0113, P1111, P1112
--

52
Yel
410
Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor
ECT Sensor B
P0117, P0118, P1114, P1115
Hard Start, Incorrect/Rough Idle, Cooling Fans Commanded On

53
Dk Blu
417
Throttle Position Sensor
TP Sensor B
P0122, P0123, P1121, P1122
Late/Harsh Shifting, TPS Default

54
--
--
--
--
--
--

55
--
--
--
--
--
--

56
--
--
--
--
--
--

57
--
--
--
--
--
--

58
--
--
--
--
--
--

59
--
--
--
--
--
--

60
Blk/Wht
451
PCM Ground
Go to Power, Ground, MIL, DLC
--
Intermittent symptoms

61
Red/Blk
1228
Pressure Control Solenoid Valve High
Transmission Connector C
P0748
Refer to 4T65-E Automatic Transaxle Diagnosis

62
Gry
23
Generator F Terminal
Generator F
--
Volts Lamp ON

63
Dk Blu
496
Knock Sensor Signal 1
Knock Sensor
P0327
Default Knock Retard commanded

64
Lt Blu
1876
Knock Sensor signal 2
Knock Sensor
P0327
Default Knock Retard commanded

65
Brn
1456
EGR Pintle Position
EGR Valve C
P1406
Incorrect/Rough Idle, Cuts-out/Misses, Chuggles

66
--
--
--
--
--
--

67
--
--
--
--
--
--

68
--
--
--
--
--
--

69
--
--
--
--
--
--

70
--
--
--
--
--
--

71
Yel/Blk
1227
Transaxle Fluid Temperature Sensor
Transaxle ConnectorF (VIN K), L (VIN 1)
P0712, P0713
Refer to 4T60-E (VIN K) / 4T65-E (VIN 1) Automatic Transaxle Diagnosis

72
--
--
--
--
--
--

73
Red/Blk
380
A/C Refrigerant Pressure Sensor
A/C Refrigerant Pressure Sensor C
P0530
A/C Compressor Inoperative

74
--
--
--
--
--
--

75
Yel
657
TCC Release Switch Input
Transmission Connector U
P1887
Refer to 4T65-E Automatic Transaxle Diagnosis

76
--
--
--
--
--
--

77
--
--
--
--
--
--

78
--
--
--
--
--
--

79
--
--
--
--
--
--

80
--
--
--
--
--
--



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Document ID# 106977
1997 Pontiac Grand Prix
 


here an 02 regal

Document ID# 781286
2002 Buick Regal


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Powertrain Control Module Connector End Views
Table 1: Powertrain Control Module (PCM) Connector C1
Table 2: Powertrain Control Module (PCM) Connector C2


Powertrain Control Module (PCM) Connector C1



Connector Part Information
12191110

80-Way F Micro-Pack 100W Series, Sealed (BLU)

Pin
Wire Color
Circuit No.
Function

1
BLK
2762
Low Reference

2-3
--
--
Not Used

4
LT GRN
1222
1-2 Shift Solenoid Valve Control

5
DK BLU
473
High Speed Cooling Fan Relay Control

6
DK GRN
335
Low Speed Cooling Fan Relay Control

7
BLK
630
Camshaft Position Signal

8
PPL/WHT
430
Low Resolution Engine Speed Signal

9
LT BLU/BLK
647
Medium Resolution Engine Speed Signal

10
GRY
2704
5 Volt Reference

11
--
--
Not Used

12
BLK
2761
Low Reference

13
ORN/BLK
469
Low Reference

14-15
--
--
Not Used

16
BLK/WHT
451
Ground

17
BLK
2760
Low Reference

18
--
--
Not Used

19
PPL
1500
Ignition 0 Voltage

20
ORN
540
Battery Positive Voltage

21
--
--
Not Used

22
PNK
1224
Transmission Fluid Pressure Switch Signal A

23-27
--
--
Not Used

28
TAN/WHT
1669
HO2S Low Signal

29
TAN
413
HO2S Low Signal

30
PPL
420
TCC Brake Switch/Cruise Control Release Signal

31
BLK
2753
Low Reference

32
GRY
435
EGR Solenoid Low Control

33
DK BLU
496
KS (1) Signal

34
LT BLU
1876
Knock Sensor 2 Signal

35-37
--
--
Not Used

38
LT GRN/WHT
1749
IAC Coil B High Control

39-42
--
--
Not Used

43
YEL/BLK
846
Fuel Injector 6 Control

44
YEL/BLK
1223
2-3 Shift Solenoid Valve Control

45
PNK/BLK
429
AIR Solenoid Control (L36)

45
--
--
Not Used (L67)

46
LT BLU/BLK
844
Fuel Injector 4 Control

47
BLK/WHT
845
Fuel Injector 5 Control

48
RED/BLK
453
Low Reference

49-52
--
--
Not Used

53
TAN/BLK
424
IC Timing Signal

54
WHT
423
IC Timing Control

55
DK GRN/WHT
817
Vehicle Speed Signal

56
BLK/WHT
451
Ground

57
BLK/WHT
451
Ground

58
DK GRN
1049
PCM Class 2 Serial Data

59
--
--
Not Used

60
BLK/WHT
451
Ground

61
BLK
2752
Low Reference

62
DK BLU/WHT
1231
AT ISS Low Signal

63
RED/BLK
1230
AT ISS High Signal

64
YEL
400
Signal High-Front

65
PPL
401
Signal Low-Front

66-67
--
--
Not Used

68
YEL
772
Transmission Range Switch Signal B

69
YEL
492
MAF Sensor Signal

70
--
--
Not Used

71
ORN/BLK
463
Requested Torque Signal (67)

71
--
--
Not Used (L36)

72
DK GRN
83
Cruise Control Inhibit Signal

73
LT GRN/BLK
1745
Fuel Injector 2 Control

74-75
--
--
Not Used

76
DK GRN/WHT
428
EVAP Canister Purge Solenoid Control

77-78
--
--
Not Used

79
BLK
1744
Fuel Injector 1 Control

80
BLK
2751
Low Reference



Powertrain Control Module (PCM) Connector C2



Connector Part Information
12191110

80-Way F Micro-Pack 100W Series, Sealed (CLR)

Pin
Wire Color
Circuit No.
Function

1
--
--
Not Used

2
WHT
1310
EVAP Canister Vent Solenoid Control

3
DK GRN/WHT
465
Fuel Pump Relay Control

4
WHT
257
EGR Solenoid High Control

5
BRN/WHT
419
MIL Control

6
--
--
Not Used

7
LT BLU/WHT
1747
IAC Coil A High Control

8
--
--
Not Used

9
TAN/BLK
464
Delivered Torque Signal (L67)

9
--
--
Not Used (L36)

10
PPL
412
HO2S High Signal

11
PPL/WHT
1668
HO2S High Signal

12-15
--
--
Not Used

16
WHT
776
Transmission Range Switch Signal P

17
RED
1226
Transmission Fluid Pressure Switch Signal C

18
BLK/WHT
771
Transmission Range Switch Signal A

19
TAN/BLK
231
Oil Pressure Switch Signal

20 -21
--
--
Not Used

22
DK GRN/WHT
762
A/C Request Signal

23
PPL
806
Crank Voltage

24
PNK
439
Ignition 1 Voltage

25
LT GRN
432
MAP Sensor Signal

26
YEL
410
ECT Sensor Signal

27
RED/BLK
380
A/C Refrigerant Pressure Sensor Signal

28
BRN
1456
EGR Valve Position Signal

29
--
--
Not Used

30
GRY/BLK
2702
5 Volt Reference

31-32
--
--
Not Used

33
GRY
2701
5 Volt Reference

34
GRY
474
5 Volt Reference

35
BLK
452
Low Reference

36-38
--
--
Not Used

39
DK GRN/WHT
459
A/C Compressor Clutch Relay Control

40-41
--
--
Not Used

42
PNK/BLK
1746
Fuel Injector 3 Control

43
--
--
Not Used

44
LT BLU/BLK
1748
IAC Coil A Low Control

45
RED/BLK
1228
PC Solenoid Valve High Control - Sol. A

46
LT BLU/WHT
1229
PC Solenoid Valve Low Control - Sol. A

47-48
--
--
Not Used

49
LT GRN/BLK
444
IAC Coil B Low Control

50
TAN
472
IAT Sensor Signal

51-54
--
--
Not Used

55
DK GRN
890
Fuel Tank Pressure Sensor Signal

56
GRY
773
Transmission Range Switch Signal C

57
DK BLU
1225
Transmission Fluid Pressure Switch Signal B

58
BRN
1174
Oil Level Switch Signal

59
WHT
85
Cruise Control Engaged Signal

60
--
--
Not Used

61
RED
225
Generator Turn On Signal

62
--
--
Not Used

63
YEL
657
TCC Release Switch Signal

64-65
--
--
Not Used

66
DK BLU
417
TP Sensor Signal

67
--
--
Not Used

68
YEL/BLK
1227
TFT Sensor Signal

69
PPL
1589
Fuel Level Sensor Signal - Primary

70-74
--
--
Not Used

75
BRN
436
AIR Pump Relay Control (L36)

75
--
--
Not Used (L67)

76
YEL/BLK
625
Starter Enable Relay Control

77
GRY
1724
Boost Control Solenoid Control (l67)

77
--
--
Not Used (L36)

78
BRN
418
TCC PWM Solenoid Valve Control

79-80
--
--
Not Used



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Document ID# 781286
2002 Buick Regal
 
^there inlays your problem. seems like you may need to swap a harness, or maybe you could program your pcm to an 02. i dont know if that will work, but it may be a shot
 
^there inlays your problem. seems like you may need to swap a harness, or maybe you could program your pcm to an 02. i dont know if that will work, but it may be a shot


the 97 pcm cannot be reprogrammed with any other year's file. it's too differnet, including physical hardware.

you either will need to swap pcm's and engine harness, and rewire the bulkhead connector on the firewall, or move pins in the engine harness that you have at the pcm connector.
 
I found it! It ended up being the Crank Position Sensor not seating correctly.

Now she will fire right up, thanks for the help guys!
 
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