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new vette!

if theyre going to offer both a big block and a better engine why is everyone getting so riled up? when you have enough money to buy this era vette you can buy the gasser. or is it that youve already made the choice and seen the error of your ways? diversity isnt a bad thing. GM is losing me.. and i was brought up drooling over the sound of V8 rumbles. so if they can produce one car for both the old school prudes and the newschool guys, why not?

i think before gm decides to change where the power comes from however they should change what the pover sits in.. meaning the use of more than plastic on a couple cars.
 


Bio248 said:
i'd rather see a high revving smaller v8 then a big block anyway. old technology is stupid to keep using.
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Easy big boi. Porsche continued to use air cooled engines into the late 90's. They continue to use terrible heavily rear biased weight distribution. And I hate the appearance of all Porsche vehicles.

At the end of the day the Z06 is lighter than its competitors and makes 505HP all day long. Some Porches rely on overboost mode to acheive that power. While they cost 2x as much.

Not to mention dry sump engine and IIRC balsa wood floorboards of the Z06.

Lighter and more power, what more do you want.
 
mech, i thought you had to buy the turbo S to get that power.

Then the overboost from the chronopack just gave you more torque under the curve?
 
I believe its a 997 model. Not a Porsche fanatic, as evident.

So for 10 seconds, power under the curve is higher than a car costing 1/2 as much?
 
Technical Specs - 911 Turbo S - All 911 Models - Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG

Horsepower 530 hp
@ rpm 6,250 - 6,750 rpm
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The Sport Chrono Package Turbo.... In the 911 Turbo models, under full acceleration, the maximum boost pressure in the lower and medium speed ranges is now temporarily increased by approximately 2.9 psi (0.2 bar). As a result, engine torque is boosted by 36 lb-ft to a maximum of 516 lb-ft for a limited period. (The 911 Turbo S models are configured to operate with a higher boost pressure level, which means that their maximum torque is always 516 lb-ft.)
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The 911 Turbo models generate 500 hp at 6,000 rpm and 480 lb.-ft. of torque between 1,950 rpm and 5,000 rpm (516 lb.-ft. for a temporary period with the overboost of the optional Sport Chrono Package Turbo with dynamic engine mount system).

In the 911 Turbo S models, a modified valve control system and an adaptation of the engine management, combined with an increase in maximum boost pressure by around 2.9 psi, enable the power unit to produce 530 hp between 6,250 rpm and 6,750 rpm and generate a permanently high torque of 516 lb.-.ft between 2,100 rpm and 4,250 rpm to deliver even more power to the road.
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So its buy the "sport package" or buy the S and get that extra 2.9 PSI all the time.
 


I didn't realize the 911 Turbo S is a whopping $160,700.00

Corvette Z06 starts at $74K

Better to compare the ZR1, at $110K


Different flavors for different folks.
 
bluegtp91 said:
Here's my meh spill.

Will the smaller non-existant, never make it to production V8 with snails be efficient...sure. I hate the fact that people are phasing out old technology that still works. Fuel Injected, or even Direct Injected Pushrod motors are still making awesome power numbers and are still netting great MPG's...even people with the new Z06 are pushing over 30 when cruising on the highway...so...why not put the $890 billion into something that matters? Like making a better performance sedan?

Also, to Dave's 2 comments...

The F22 deal...different design...DOHC...different platform ya know? Different parts...different wear points. Bigger motors don't need to rev high...which is why I don't think those 3.0 turbo 8's will go anywhere. Not everyone will go for the Ferrari-esque noise from a 'Vette...especially older men...who the biggest target sales are.

To the comment about the red 'Vette...that isn't the current one. The C6 is still in production...that is the same one as the picture Aaron posted for the most part...and is dubbed the C7, which actually isn't in production until appox. 2013.
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Ah yes but this supposed 3.0 v8 is a DOHC motor, not your pushrod rod style. Pushrod motors can do the high rev's if need be (IE Nascar) but its too much money to make it happen in a street car. DOHC motors are easy to push to those kind of numbers.

F22 is fully forged inside and out. V8 can be done the same way.
 
Well this sucks. Hopefully you can still get it with a big block, if not this car will be totally ruined
 


this seems pointless the vette is already super fast and they say the smaller v8 will rev close to 10,000rpms so whats that mean like 8,000-9,000 thats high but really not that high I mean look at the big block motors they use in nascar they rev past 10,000 idk...

I'm not against change I think they should try it out for a year with a limited number made and at the same time keep the old way going if it goes over well... then keep making them
 
I have a F22b1 in my Accords. Do you guys mean the H22, cause the F22 is a SOHC vs the H22 is what most consider the Honda 4cyl big block with a DOHC? I've taken mine up to some high RPMs, but I'd never think about 10k. Especially since the cam bearings are built into the heads. Doesn't look like you'll be able to replace them unless u get some custom machine work. At least that makes it a little hard to spin the cam bearings, LOL. And for GM or another company to build one to handle 10k RPM, it wouldn't be cost effective. That's part of why they've been doing the pushrods for so long. They figured they could make the same power vs a smaller engine with DOHC that would cost more. Plus, it just wouldn't be the Vette sounding like some crotch rocket engine instead of the rumble. And you have to figure they have to warranty it for 100k miles.
 
New Corvette exhaust kits:

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