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Lowering the gas prices

Grimsin

Grimsin

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THIS IS NOT THE 'DON'T BUY' GAS FOR ONE DAY, BUT IT WILL
SHOW YOU HOW WE CAN GET GAS BACK DOWN TO $1.00 PER LITRE.
This was sent by a
retired Coca Cola executive. It came from one of his engineer buddies who
retired from Haliburton. If you are tired of the gas prices going up AND they
will continue to rise this summer, take time to read this please.
Phillip
Hollsworth offered this good idea. This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't
buy gas on a certain day" campaign that was going around last April or May! It's
worth your consideration. Join the resistance!!!!
I hear we are going to hit
close to $ 1.50 a litre by this summer and it might go higher!! Want gasoline
prices to come down?
We need to take some intelligent, united action. The
oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to
"hurt" ourselves by refusing to buy gas ...
It was more of an inconvenience
to us than it was a problem for them. BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has
come up with a plan that can Really work. Please read on and join with us!

By now you're probably thinking gasoline priced at about $.99 is super
cheap. Me too! It is currently $1.28 at SUNOCO and ESSO for regular unleaded in
Hamilton and Ottawa and climbing every week.
Now that the oil companies and
the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of a litre of gas is
CHEAP at $.87 to .99, we need to take aggressive action to teach them that
BUYERS control the marketplace..not sellers.
With the price of gasoline
going up more each day, we consumers need to take action.
The only way we
are going to see the price of gas come down is if we hit someone in the
pocketbook by not purchasing their gas! And, we can do that WITHOUT hurting
ourselves.
How? Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying
gas.
But we CAN have an impact on gas prices if we all act together to force
a price war.
Here's the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY
gasoline from the two biggest companies (which now are one), SUNOCO(PETRO
CANADA) and ESSO.
If they are not selling any gas, they will be inclined to
reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have
to follow suit.
But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions
of SUNOCO(PETRO CANADA ) and ESSO gas buyers. It's really simple to do! Now,
don't wimp out on me at this point...keep reading and I'll explain how simple it
is to reach millions of people!!
I am sending this note to 30 people. If
each of us send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300) ... and those 300 send
it to at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000)... and so on, by the time the message
reaches the sixth group of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION
consumers .
If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten
friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted!
I* it goes
one level further, you guessed it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!

Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all!
How
long would all that take? If each of us sends this e-mail out to ten more people
within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted
within the next 8 days!
Acting together we can make a difference.
If
this makes sense to you, please pass this message on. I suggest that we not buy
from SUNOCO(PETRO CANADA)/ESSO UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE $.99 RANGE
AND KEEP THEM DOWN. THIS CAN REALLY WORK.
REMEMBER – STARTING MAY 1st NO GAS
FROM ESSO / PETROCAN / SUNOCO!
(why wait till then, get into the habit by
starting now)
 


You do know that the oil companies don't set the prices right? A barrel of oil is the same price worldwide no matter where it comes from. If you want cheaper gas you have to lower the price of the actual oil, not the products that come from it.
 
so what about us americans.... hit marathon oil? (since they own speedway and marathon) but like sandman said... they pay a certain price per barrel of oil and the price of oil reflects what they charge for gas to make a small profit. if we only buy from one gas company they will just buy more oil from the suppliers and the people who we arent supposed to buy gas from will adjust how many barrels of oil they buy to be equivalent to how much they are selling (because surely some people will still go to those gas stations). I could see this concept doing nothing but shifting dominance to the underdog companies
 
And us Americans are only paying about half of what Europe pays, I'm sure Canada is about the same. So yes more expensive gas does suck but we could be Europe.
 


IIRC the OP copy and paste, its about 6 years old.

Sandman said:
And us Americans are only paying about half of what Europe pays, I'm sure Canada is about the same. So yes more expensive gas does suck but we could be Europe.
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I know right, everyone should stop crying about gas prices.
 
we are not first in a long line of people that have a higher demand than us. gas prices go up because we simply don't buy as much of it as others do. relative demand is hardcore down in comparison to china.

suck on that, tree huggers. lower gas prices come from using more of it.
 
never thought of it that way bio... makes since. i guess thats why we learned that gas is one of the only resources that defies economics
 


Have a read Here for a better look on whats happening with gas prices.
LOU DOBBS, FOX NEWS BUSINESS ANCHOR: Well, I think that is a great idea, actually, for any leader to bring the principal actors together and say, "Look, this is what I, the president of the United States, consider to be in the interests of the American people and the nation. This is what you're going to do."It's job owning. It's been done historically throughout this nation's entire history by presidents. It's exactly the right thing to do.The unfortunate part is we have a president right now who is incapable. He lacks the standing with the business community and point of fact as a leader to successfully carry that out

.O'REILLY: Well, but he's still the president. If he wants them to show up, they're going to show up.

DOBBS: Sure they are.

O'REILLY: You know, I don't know whether convince them of anything. But you correct me if I'm wrong. You're much smarter on economics than I am. There's a lot of subjectivity built into these oil prices.

DOBBS: Sure there are.

O'REILLY: You basically have speculators. We understand how they drive up the price. But somebody said the other day 30 percent of what Americans are now paying at the pump is speculation.And then there is the overseas markets. They're getting more money over in certain countries they get here because demand here is down.But the oil companies, they have -- they can put whatever they want. They can charge whatever they want. Nobody's telling them what to charge, correct?
DOBBS: Absolutely correct. And the idea -- and I understand why the petroleum institute and all these trade groups would say, you know, really, don't worry about the fact that we're now exporting gasoline and diesel and jet fuel. It just doesn't really amount to much.That's, you know, that's basically saying the law of supply and demand doesn't apply to crude oil. And that might be serviceable for some, but it's not to me or most Americans, who now are paying $3.65 on average at the pumps while we have watched our exports double over the course of the past couple of years to -- to Brazil, to Mexico, to China.

O'REILLY: Well, here's the bigger picture, though. If this continues to happen -- and it may, I mean, but...

DOBBS: We hope it does, actually.

O'REILLY: What?

DOBBS: We hope that exports actually continue.

O'REILLY: No, no, no. But if high retail gas prices continue for the American consumer, we're going to go back into recession. I mean, because this is taking too much money in disposable income that people would spend in other places. So unemployment is going to go up. The recession's going to come back. So it's really a national security issue.And this is why I'm urging President Obama and Congress to get involved to some extent here. You can't tell the oil companies what to charge. We're not a socialistic nation.

DOBBS: Right.

O'REILLY: We can't do that. But you can basically say, "We know you have subjectivity, and we're just asking you, all right, to basically help us out here." And I don't think that's unreasonable.

DOBBS: I don't think it's unreasonable, Bill. But I would even proffer a solution if I may. And you hit on it.The oil that we're talking about, the petroleum that we're talking about, the coal, all of the vast energy reserves in this country belong to us, as you said.In Alaska there's a perfect model for what we should do as a nation. We should have -- what it's called there is a permanent trust. Let's call it the American trust. And oil companies, who put about $10 billion into fees and royalties every year, have that money go into this trust fund. Not to be touched by the Treasury Department or any other federal agency. But simply for the investment on behalf of the American people. Citizens.A couple of things happen. One is it reminds everybody whose oil this is, whose coal this is, and what the rights of an American citizen are. And it even puts a little money, a little dollar sign next to what it's worth to be a citizen.Now dividends dispersed and distributed every year have invested that money, most of it invested and returns built up. We have seen the permanent fund in Alaska rise from less than a billion dollars to $40 billion over the course of 30 years.

O'REILLY: So you would do that on a national level?

DOBBS: Absolutely.

O'REILLY: And people would get a little bit of largess from the oil companies.

DOBBS: A little largess and a little respect. And you know what? You talked about asking them to be nice. Job owning to me is saying you're going to be nice and you're going to act in the interests, whoever these CEOs may be.

O'REILLY: Or we're going to take -- right. Go ahead.

DOBBS: We peg that thing to the price of gasoline. Peg it to the price of crude oil. And that money go into that trust fund for the American people. I think you'd see a lot of people start to pay a little different attention to what the American people think.

O'REILLY: That's a good idea.

DOBBS: And respect citizens a little more.

O'REILLY: All right. We're causing a lot of trouble, though. I'll tell you that. In one week we reported -- Dobbs and I started last Friday, and now everybody is all going crazy.

DOBBS: Bill, if you haven't put focus on this issue I am absolutely convinced the president wouldn't have been talking about it just yesterday.

O'REILLY: Well, he's going to have to do something.Lou, thanks very much.


Read more: Government intervention in the American oil industry? - Interviews - The O'Reilly Factor - Fox News


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Sandman said:
You do know that the oil companies don't set the prices right? A barrel of oil is the same price worldwide no matter where it comes from. If you want cheaper gas you have to lower the price of the actual oil, not the products that come from it.
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Since when?
 
Good god these threads are dumb want to stop getting raped at the pump then oil speculation needs to stop first. Just the same as when all the crooks on wall street love when something goes wrong. ex. hurricane, earthquarke, or man made problems such as war make the oil go up any one that doesnt believe speclation is the single biggest factor in oil prices needs to get a clue.

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TheNoob23 said:
never thought of it that way bio... makes since. i guess thats why we learned that gas is one of the only resources that defies economics
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No it doesnt its really the same as buying in BULK aka department stores have been doing the same thing forever. And to the OP I read that and found one major big time flaw. Stop buying from certian companies and gee the others will have to suck up the increased demand of oil that is not being bought from the "banned" companies. Gee then were back to square 1 high demand for limited product which is exactly what rockets up prices!!!
 


dude ask a real economist they will tell you that gas does not follow suit like other products do with supply and demand. i'm pretty sure my economics professors knows more than you do about economics broheim
 
And Im pretty sure all the speculators on wall st. poop on economics like they give a damn?
Education doesnt = common sense just sayin

Like I said wanna stop getting raped at the pump then ending oil speculation is the only way that anything will happen.
 
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Adjusted For Inflation And Increased Vehicle Efficiency, Cost Per Mile Is 28% Less Than In 1980

Honestly I'm tired of hearing the same discussions over and over again with no progess being made towards a conclusion or common consensus.

This includes intakes, KR, etc.

Two more:

http://www.consumerenergyreport.com/2012/02/27/how-high-have-gas-prices-risen-over-the-years/

http://earlywarn.blogspot.ca/2012/02/why-are-gas-prices-high.html
 
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