Sorry wasnt done my wife sent anyway noise is all the time ive been a mechanic for 25years the only thing ive ever ran into like this turned out to be harmonic balancer was just running it past you guys who have been around these vehicles and idont have a dog , have only had a week was given car front valve cover off no pulled studs going after balancer2004 grand prix 3.8 engine knocking noise thought maybe rocker arm stud then maybe flex plate