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dgjks6

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So our 2006 GP is having issues. And let me say it has been 10 years of almost trouble free motoring. And it is a great car. But my wife wants my son to get something more reliable.

He wants a Subaru. So we looked and an Impreza. What a hunk of junk. I understand it is an economy car. Sticker of a new one is about $22,000. We looked a 1 year old rental car today. That is how I bought my GP - 1 year old of rental. The GP was more expensive 10 years ago than the Impreza is now.

Anyway, the kids think the Subaru is an upgrade. It is cheap, noisy, and overall just not a nice place to be.

It is not even close.

I think I am getting old and grumpy.
 


It was a CVT. With paddle shifters and it makes changing gear sounds?

10 hard years later the GP still looks good inside.
Outside is another story - my daughter likes to bump things.
 
if you are familiar with Jackson Hole, Wyoming, I lived there for a year. it is filled to the brim with bleeding heart liberals, who typically have more money than they know what to do with. a large majority of the liberals who live there, drive the Subaru, and are quite opinionated about their qualitys. I have never been a subaru fan, but for that reason alone, I would not ever buy one.
 
Kids these days think new cars are better. My first car was a 98 Olds cutlass. Then a 2001 Hyundai accent, then a 1997 camry, now my 2003 GP. My camry was the most reliable and best built. I'm only 25 and I found this out, that older cars are better.
 
My first was a 89' olds cutlass supreme, 72 mustang fastback and 76 Lincoln continental, great cars until I wrapped them around trees or something else stupid. I'm 39 and I wish I cared for cars like I do now, I have been through many...

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He wants it because of the lure of the WRX/STI. Every kid goes though it, I did too and bought a Lancer GTS (One under ralliart, two under evo) and though it was bad ass, right up until I had to take a long trip in it... 3 weeks later it was sold and I was riding in my GP :P
 
Yea I don't get the Subaru thing. No one wanted one when I was growing up.


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I do have to say, he is excited about that piece of crap, so at least that is good. The GP was always jsut a car to him. I still can not get over the build quilty and materials compared to the GP. I do have to remmeber that the GP is a different class of car and was a lot more new 10 years ago. This is my first "economy" car since my Chevy Beretta.
 
Build quailty is probably a bad term. Quality of parts is probably a better term. I hope I don't lose my GP cred divulging my other rides, but I have a 2008 BMW 535xi with 150,000 miles, a 2004 Ford Excursion with 250,000 miles, a 2008 Audi Q7 with 150,000 miles, and had a 1999 911 with a lot less miles and the interior of the GP still is better than all of them. The only problems in the GP not looking brand new are the plastic piece on the top of the dash is cracked and some light bulbs on the climate control are out. The Germans cover all their plastic with a thin layer of "rubber" or something that peels. All the knobs and buttons and steering wheel look bad and worn in the BMW, Audi and Porsche. The leather in the GP held up a lot better. Less cracks and side bolster wear. The Excursion is probably in second place and may actually be better because as family hauler it took more abuse its hard to make a direct comparison. The Audi is by far the worst. Everything has peeled. I think American cars get a bad rap because of their history in the 70-90's (which they deserved - I got burned by GM more than once) but the GP has been a great car - most of the problems I have had have been because I replaced OEM parts with Autozone stuff to save $$$.

This is my second Japanses car - except for a miata I bought new - and for some reason I expected something more in it.
 
I am reading this with interest. Lots of what is being said here I have found to be true, as I have seen it with the GP's I have owned. I purchased my 40th anniversary GP in 2004 with 18,000 miles. It has proved to be extremely reliable until just the past few years. I now have 238,000 miles, and have had some wear and tear issues. On the other hand, locals that I talk with have been telling me for years that I need to replace the Grand Prix, that it would "dollar me to death". I have not found that to be the case as repair costs have not been that high for me. Meanwhile, I have heard of issues they have had with their Subarus and other foreign cars. They typically trade in their foreign built cars when they are around 4-5 years old.
One big factor that I believe helps a car last 14 years and longer is that you need to keep it garaged. Almost every relative and neighbor tells me their car never gets put away daily in a garage. It always sits outside. I have always kept mine in a garage when possible. I don't think build quality is a factor. Cars have been built better than ever before in the past 20 years. What matters is how a car is driven, and maintained. I have owned cars (1 of them was a '89 GP and another a '97 GP) that only lasted 12 years or less before they rotted to hell. I did very little to keep these cars running well, and as a result, I had to get rid of them with only 170,000 miles or less.
 
dgjks6 said:
Build quailty is probably a bad term. Quality of parts is probably a better term. I hope I don't lose my GP cred divulging my other rides, but I have a 2008 BMW 535xi with 150,000 miles, a 2004 Ford Excursion with 250,000 miles, a 2008 Audi Q7 with 150,000 miles, and had a 1999 911 with a lot less miles and the interior of the GP still is better than all of them. The only problems in the GP not looking brand new are the plastic piece on the top of the dash is cracked and some light bulbs on the climate control are out. The Germans cover all their plastic with a thin layer of "rubber" or something that peels. All the knobs and buttons and steering wheel look bad and worn in the BMW, Audi and Porsche. The leather in the GP held up a lot better. Less cracks and side bolster wear. The Excursion is probably in second place and may actually be better because as family hauler it took more abuse its hard to make a direct comparison. The Audi is by far the worst. Everything has peeled. I think American cars get a bad rap because of their history in the 70-90's (which they deserved - I got burned by GM more than once) but the GP has been a great car - most of the problems I have had have been because I replaced OEM parts with Autozone stuff to save $$$.

This is my second Japanses car - except for a miata I bought new - and for some reason I expected something more in it.
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A friend of mine had a BMW and he hated it, it was a big pile of crap. Nothing worked on it.
 


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