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Junk I drive

Thanks for the overview Booba. Bill it was 03 and amen. Thats kinda why I hate myself so bad for destroying the 40th. Last of a dying breed and top options with low miles. At least I'm using parts of it. Last nights bumper clearing looked like poo and I encountered a bit of blushing on my first time out with DC rattle clear. Maybe it will look better in sun today.
 


BillBoost37 said:
Ok.. so Giant Piles have sucked since 89
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For sure. Thats a Good Point. Us Genuine Pontiac drivers Gasped and Puked when that Giant Pussout happened. Grand Prix has always meant Generous Performance without a Giant Payment. Grotesque Tired Piles are about all thats left of them in 2015.
 


Clearcoat spot-job looks promising in daylight. Super duty compound was my prep, lol. Thats why you see dullness out past the new clear and its just the way I wanted so it will stick at the edge. Only one faint spot of blushing is visible. I hopped on the backside of the cover with a hairdryer immediately after spraying to get all the solvent to flash out while the top coat was still flowing out. Got kinda cool last night but sun was on this all day. Ready to rub up-















 
Satisfiactory. I hit it with a HF white foam pad first, then the 3M with same polish. No sandpaper. It rubbed right up to a decent gloss easily, and the fade-out area is OK but might have some black in it. No biggie, its all black and shiny and fine for the GT. Still don't have $70 in it but yeah, had to re-spray. I'll tend to the other chips and stuff after its on the car, hell I need to mow! I don't reckon these bumper pics are doin much for ya, but someone might catch on y'know?













 
idrivejunk said:
Thanks for the overview Booba. Bill it was 03 and amen. Thats kinda why I hate myself so bad for destroying the 40th. Last of a dying breed and top options with low miles. At least I'm using parts of it. Last nights bumper clearing looked like poo and I encountered a bit of blushing on my first time out with DC rattle clear. Maybe it will look better in sun today.
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And last two door(coupe) Gp's were built in 02, 03 was all 4dr cars
 
231FUN said:
And last two door(coupe) Gp's were built in 02, 03 was all 4dr cars
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Yeah I messed up that reply... the coupe-only GP was introduced in 64 and was fullsize until 68. In 69 that changed, and it continued as an intermediate coupe only until 88 or 89. After the first metric fastener found its way onto a GP, I checked out. So around 1980. The 97-03s are where I step back in, and the reason is money. You can't beat the bang for the buck and my antique is too obsolete to use daily anymore. Plus I was already familiar with them fro fixing wrecks while they were late models.
 


Anyone have suggestions for improving my 69 GP? What would you change? Besides fixing the bodywork and repainting. Theres plenty pics of it on this thread.
 
You know me, I'd go EFI on it, and make it a roller engine (if it isn't already). You peg leggin or do you have limited slip?
 
Well.. you see that firebird in the shop. I'd start off doing a lot of what it has.... Maybe it'll share a few parts like that purty engine!
 


No pegleg. 12 bolt "posi", the rearend is from an el Camino 68-72.

I've considered aftermarket EFI but the entry fee is too steep, especially considering the WOT gains. If that EPS 750 didn't work like it does I'd be more inclined to make the shift. My investigations down this road always end up with me wanting to fab a LIM from sheetmetal and use a stock big V8 multiport setup off an LS truck or Camaro / Corvette from there up. Because TBI=why? But my induction ideas get bizarre. Using a tri-power setup as throttle bodies has been discussed... with Marlan Davis in HRM of all people. I wrote in about it many years ago and he took it a step further. I suggested using 3 2V TBs. He suggested going stealth multiport with injectors under the intake, using an aftermarket aluminum tri-power manifold. Pontiacs are all "air-gap" design and use a valley cover. Anyway yeah the current induction is satisfactory at under $500 worth of stuff, and it does fairly well with cold starts even with choke inop. Part throttle is beautiful to me. Much as I'd like to, for now EFI is out of my league.

I do need a new fuel pump, its the last fix I explored and to properly spec a pump for it (stock now but works), you start on the dyno. Pfft, dyno. Been just priming it when it sits for weeks in winter for years, and wanting an electric all that time. More research and planning. To me, the interior, trunk, and bay are all kinda sad while the engine runs happy.

Went down roller thought road too, and thats pricey on a Pontiac V8 by anyone's standards. You free up the valvetrain but never quite know the current wear condition of your distributor gear. It has to be a sacrificial piece (bronze or alloy) due to the hard cam gear. The lifter valleys, while mine is the better, early block... really need bedded braces to go roller. Lot of work, small gains. Factory Ponch grinds are actually awful hot, and work in all-iron engines well. Throw in some aluminum and things change. Main journals are 3.25" on 455s and pistons are heavy so its a low-RPM torquer.

I do have a pair of unported 4X heads (around 98 cc) I could put on (has #66 now, not much diff). They have 2.11 / 1.77 valves and screw-in studs, came off my deceased 400. And HS full roller rockers. Plan for next build was a 400 with XE268 cam but I had to bail, $. Plopping Edelbrocks on is the way to go... oh crap started talking engines.... gonna be late to put Firebird doors on. Have a good un Booba. Its refreshing to talk actual Pontiac but I get carried away. All those answers are no anyway, lol. Keep em coming though. I am drawn to left pedal as the mod for me.
 
BillBoost37 said:
Well.. you see that firebird in the shop. I'd start off doing a lot of what it has.... Maybe it'll share a few parts like that purty engine!
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Truly, I'm not messed up about Chevy crossbreeding but it has all the grins with 455 as-is. The engine is great, just painted ugly.
 
Looks fine with the hood down and tires smoking.

I always said to people..why do you spend so much time worrying on how the engine looks? I only raced with the hood down.
 
I don't know about the GM side of things, but I know with my Ford you can do a factory EFI setup pretty easily. I did a MAF swap on my truck for $150 total, $50 at the JY for the MAF\airbox and harness, then $100 for a Mustang PCM. Just like converting my 302 to roller was all a bolt in since every 302W past 1985 was roller ready. GM doesn't have anything like that?
 
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