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It's Official. This Country Is As Stupid As A Brick



I try so hard to care about this country and to watch it saw it's hands off is quite depressing. I've never been nervous before. This isn't right!:th_praying:
 
Please explain how the country is going to come to an end because people wanted change. As if the past 8 years were the greatest years ever? And continuing the policies of Pres. Bush is the best thing for this country? Do you honestly believe that come January 20, the Constitution, which President Bush has already treated more as a guide than the law of the land, is going to take away rights you already have?
 
what change? just saying the word change and saying that we need a change doesnt mean this so called "change" is any good.

policies are garbage, but the american people are morons.
 
Bio248 said:
policies are garbage, but the american people are morons.
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Just because the candidate you voted for didn't win doesn't make the American people morons. Ralph Nadar didn't win - if HE won then I'd support your moron comment wholeheartedly.
 


I tend to agree here. Just saying change when thats what the people want to hear does not mean it will happen.

People blame the Bush Administration for all the economic mess and while I agree there were steps along the way that probably could have been taken to curtail all this but it did not start with the Bush Administration. When this mess started I talked to someone I know very well that is in banking to kinda understand what happened. I was looking for information to help shape my decisions. The Sub-Prime mortgages that kicked all this off was not started in the Bush Administration, it was started under the Clinton Administration when signed into law that require a certain percentage of all home loans had to be sub-prime so that they could move people in lower income areas (the ones that would be able to least afford any radical changes in economic conditions) in to homes. So this is not totally the Bush Administrations fault, there are other such examples. People seem to conveniently forget that policies implemented in one administration may take years to fully mature and often it is after that particular person is out of office. So lets be sure to affix the finger pointing where it belongs whether it be with the Democrats or Republicans.

Next, few people realize or seem to want to take into consideration that after the 2004 Democratic Convention, Obama was put on the fast track to be groomed for this even. He was hand fed legislation so that it could seem he was doing something, he was PURPOSELY held from public events and engagements so that he would not have the opportunity to mess up and such. They (the democratic caucus) devised in 2004 a two year plan for him, to groom him in the public eye for this time. Yet the nation is clambering over him like it was the second coming and its all a concoction of the democratic party. He has been fed legislation, strategies, plans, and everything so that it would appear he was the most visionary, pristine canidate in history. But of course you dont hear people talking about that.

He has not had the experience of goofing up and learning from that, he has not had the experience in making a decision that was not the best and having to adjust, he has no military experience and he has no budget experience.

That all said, I do think that his community organizing experience will come in handy for him in that he can draw upon that experience to see how others not so priveledged survive, but aside from that I see little that he has accomplished on his own initiative that was not fed to him in some way as part of his grooming to become the president-elect.

I am concerned that some of his ideas and visions are somewhat socialist in nature. So we will have to wait and see on that. If he continues to be groomed by the democratic caucus then it may not be an issue because I dont think the would push him that way.

I wont agree with the Americans are morons comment, but I will say that we have WAY too much of a tendency to want to be told how to think. We generally do not want to do research ourselves, we dont want to face facts, we want to be told who we should vote for and why, THAT is scary. They in fact call such people Low Information Voters.

I was not totally happy with McCain, Pallin was okay. I personally would have rather seen Huckabee or Romney make the run. But the fact is that Obama will now become our nations president, and I will support him. I dont agree with much of what he wants to do, but I will support him as I would any President, republican or democratic and we should all do the same. Ive said it before and I will say it again, we do not have to totally agree with someone to support them

I will give him the opportunity to show what he is made of and to demonstrate his leadership. With Russia already bowing their chest it will be interesting to see what a President with no military expertise does. I am strongly oppose and always have been of a President that has no military experience. If you are going to be the one that can send our troops into battle then I feel it should be a requirement that you have spent time on that side of the fence to understand what that is like.

But for now, we have to wait and see.
 
SyntheticShield said:
I will give him the opportunity to show what he is made of and to demonstrate his leadership. With Russia already bowing their chest it will be interesting to see what a President with no military expertise does. I am strongly oppose and always have been of a President that has no military experience. If you are going to be the one that can send our troops into battle then I feel it should be a requirement that you have spent time on that side of the fence to understand what that is like.

But for now, we have to wait and see.
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Many of the better Presidents we have had did not have military experience - Jefferson, FDR. And although Reagan was technically in the military, he was involved in public relations - so I'd keep him with the non-military folks. Also, LBJ was not in the military, but he is probably in the middle. Then there are those who WERE in military that I can be classified as some of the worst - Grant, Nixon, Carter, and yes, George W. Bush.

The framers of the constitution want to make SURE that a civilian was in charge of the military, not a career military man. And yes, there have been military presidents, but all of them resigned their commissions when they became President. The framers did not want to the US to fall into a military dictatorship.

I don't think military service should be a simple yes/no answer - if the President choose the right advisors, he can be a pacifist and still be an effective commander in chief.

With Obama's election, I've heard that this will finally "end" the Vietnam war. It's very likely that whatever candidate the Republicans put up in 2012 he or she would have likely only had peacetime military experience, if any at all.
 


I've written so many bullitens and blogs that I'm kinda not up to it. But I will say that I paid attention, I researched the why's and how's. I don't know everything about each of them. But this is the first election that I was available and old enough for. I threw up a huge essay yesterday to all my friends and people I know (younger bracket) and all I get back from them is "Obama promises change" or "He will help me out cuz I don't make enough money". I beleive that it is our responsibility as free americans to make money, and also to spend it wisely. If the govt fixes our mistakes everytime we screw up, then what will we ever learn. I'm not saying to not help out, I just believe that Obama's policy ideas are very unconsititutional. This country itself is in critical debt. I think this is in part because we havn't learned yet. Also seeing a tour of Iraq myself and then dealing with critisizm from people that have never experienced the military. I feel that it is a good point to say that someone should understand it. It's not the same as understanding other things like bugets, or working on the farm. Deployment is a unique and challanging experience that cannot be explained to someone who has not seen it. I don't think it's a requirement to be presidient, but it's a damn good thing to have on your belt. Also I feel that a career military man could also be a bit scary too cuz they tend to get brainwashed after 7 -10 years. (Just my opinion) But a few years is nice. Anyway's I've rambled on about this enough. No hard feelings to anyone of any vote.
 
And who believes that McCain would have been a "maverick?" He didn't pick his running mate of choise - he picked someone to appeal to the Republican base. Nothing wrong with that, but if he had picked Tom Ridge or Mitt Romney, McCain would likely be President right now. He would have picked up Pennsylvania, possibly Michigan as well with Romney, and states like Virginia and Ohio would probably have gone red as well.

There is lots of "blame" to go around here. Obama just as much won as McCain lost.

Some food for thought regarding "morons" -

Committed gay couple in Arkansas, want to adopt an unwanted child someone has put in foster care, both are loving people, well paid jobs, and can easily support a child, can't adopt because of a new law, voted for Obama = Morons.

Unwed man and woman, have a child from previous relationships, get pregnant again but still won't be married, refuse to use birth control because it doesn't "feel" the same, live in a trailer park pulling down welfare, won't let "them homos" adopt because being gay means you're a bad parent, voted for McCain = Real Americans.
 
DesQ27 said:
I've written so many bullitens and blogs that I'm kinda not up to it. But I will say that I paid attention, I researched the why's and how's. I don't know everything about each of them. But this is the first election that I was available and old enough for. I threw up a huge essay yesterday to all my friends and people I know (younger bracket) and all I get back from them is "Obama promises change" or "He will help me out cuz I don't make enough money". I beleive that it is our responsibility as free americans to make money, and also to spend it wisely. If the govt fixes our mistakes everytime we screw up, then what will we ever learn. I'm not saying to not help out, I just believe that Obama's policy ideas are very unconsititutional. This country itself is in critical debt. I think this is in part because we havn't learned yet. Also seeing a tour of Iraq myself and then dealing with critisizm from people that have never experienced the military. I feel that it is a good point to say that someone should understand it. It's not the same as understanding other things like bugets, or working on the farm. Deployment is a unique and challanging experience that cannot be explained to someone who has not seen it. I don't think it's a requirement to be presidient, but it's a damn good thing to have on your belt. Also I feel that a career military man could also be a bit scary too cuz they tend to get brainwashed after 7 -10 years. (Just my opinion) But a few years is nice. Anyway's I've rambled on about this enough. No hard feelings to anyone of any vote.
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DUDE!! You and I, I think, would get along famously. We look to the government to solve everything for us. I abore the mentality that the government should fix everything or fix it when we make stupid mistakes. This country is not without an abundance of opportunities to do better and improve your life no matter where you are at on the social scale.

I have used the example before, God supported the Israelites with just a 10% tithe and we cannot support our country with 30%+ taxes. You tell me who had financial responsibility.
 
Ya the word change has been thrown around a lot during this presidential race and it has kinda lost it's meaning, but there are two things that are going to change that I'm actually glad about. We will be going from the trickle down economics that have been unfortunately proving unsuccessful to a trickle up system, and we will be going from spending trillions of dollars on an unnecessary war to hopefully pulling out are troops in the next few years and using that money to hopefully rebuild our own economy and worry about bettering our own nation and our own people for a change.
 


i think the biggest fear people felt from voting mccain was more of the same republican bologna, altough some have speculated that many whites voted obama due to a sense of guilt for the trials and tribs put forth onto blacks throughout history.... i think it's all hog wash, i say give the man a chance, if he sucks then in 4 years vote him out, what other choice do we have???
i actually kinda like obama (did not vote for him personally)however my biggest concern is biden.... man, he makes me nervous
 
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