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Im the route 120 killer



blowfishRus6 said:
to bad the grandprix cant go 12's with 200$ worth of motor mods.
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neither can a neon, 200 bucks is a CAI for a neon, try 2k to get it into the 12's INCLUDING all parts needed to get it there.

I think with 1k you can get a gxp into the low 12's on a DR.

Also, a GP weighs ALOT more then a neon does, they arent even in the same class, the power to weight ratio is like comparing a 60's caddy to a crotch rocket.
 
motor wise intake, downpipe and blowoff valve. yea im sure its more than 200 bucks but its not that many mods. not to bad. then slicks and some suspension.

i rather have one of those then a cobalt.

i know there not in the same class but when it comes down to it at the staging lanes it doesent really matter.
 
It doesnt matter, negotiations should have been finalized before they stage, poor knowledge of the true hustle.

Besides iif you bring more air in, its gotta have someplace to go as unrestricted as possible.

Just a I/H/E alone is over 600 bucks, where and when has it ever been cost efficient to modify a 4 banger? Sure its got a turbo but so did skylarks.
 
so if i pull up the the stageing lanes or a redlight im suppose to ask for lenghts???

heads up, run what you brung and hope you brung enough.

my intake on my car right now cost me 40 bucks. a down pipe cost around 150 bucks. blow off valve 100-200$ if that. the point is it has an intake, downpipe (not full headers just a downpipe) and a blowoff valve for motor parts. not to shabby

also honda are very costefficent to modify. guys are picking turbo kits up for less than 500 bucks. motors are about 300 bucks. 4 bangers are relitivly cheap.
 


i got beat pretty bad when my car was stock by a heavy modded srt4 i got him off the line than he caught traction and blew past me lol it was pretty bad but oh well he has alot of money in that thing but totaled it into a pole lol
 
I know way to many people who had srt-4's for a hot second, non of them have it anymore...
 
1998xGTP said:
Ehh, let me clear this up for you guys :th_thumbsup-wink:

In the past week I raced 7 cars, I beat 6 with ease and the last one was a bit tougher.

Round one: A blacked out Cobalt
Round two:Nissan silvia
Round three:Suzuki Samurai (LMAO):th_nanana:
Round four: Grand am (thought his car was all that and a bag of chips)
Round five:SRT4 Black with white stripes riding on 18's
Round six:An old Junker I am not sure what, I think it was a Ford Tempo :eek:

and finally round seven I raced a brand new Nissan 3.5, almost won... I know of a few faster cars, but I know where most of the cop hideouts are :th_peaceout:



I also saw another GP driver 25ish maybe? Driving a silver Daytona GTP, if you are on this forum let me know :) We drove by Mchenry west high school you have a gauge pod and exhaust work.
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I've just gotten around to looking at this since all of the replies started comming in.I figure I should since it had so many replies. I figured there had to be a reason and that some of them must be pretty good.


:th_laugh-lol3:
 
TDCRacing said:
I've just gotten around to looking at this since all of the replies started comming in.I figure I should since it had so many replies. I figured there had to be a reason and that some of them must be pretty good.


:th_laugh-lol3:
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Yeah and Joe hasn't even come back yet lol, just wait until he sees them all :th_mischievious:
 


blowfishRus6 said:
so if i pull up the the stageing lanes or a redlight im suppose to ask for lenghts???

heads up, run what you brung and hope you brung enough.

my intake on my car right now cost me 40 bucks. a down pipe cost around 150 bucks. blow off valve 100-200$ if that. the point is it has an intake, downpipe (not full headers just a downpipe) and a blowoff valve for motor parts. not to shabby

also honda are very costefficent to modify. guys are picking turbo kits up for less than 500 bucks. motors are about 300 bucks. 4 bangers are relitivly cheap.
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That is the basic hustle
How come every convo involving a neon ALWAYS resorts to civic?


Im saying if its done right, why are you going to open up the breathing tube, then restrict it all thru the top end and then into the headers to open it back up again to do what? a few extra HP maybe up to a second shave time?

Its a neon, there is a reason they dont have a high keep rate. ****, take an LS1 put a few hundred into it and you re sitting mid to low 11's's on street tires, very high 10's if the driver is skilled enough, and has a hot tire.

Hell with a 500 buck kit you can transform an LT1 into a low/mid 12 second daily on street tires.

I built wagons and trucks to run in the 11's as daily drivers, the most I ever spent including purchase price was 7500 bucks and it was a 11.3 car. G- Body.

Its close to a grand to throw together a economotor to sit in the 12's, double maybe triple the weight, and its a 17 second car on its best day.
 
and for a few hunderd bucks its a 12 sec car. (sorry tdc :p) tdc's xp cam, fullsize intercooler, 2.8 pulley was going 12's. this neon could have gave him a good run. with very minmal mods on the neon. thats pretty impressive.

keep value is all in matinece. you know why most srt4 have gone to ****?? young kids (or people in general) get them, rag the hell out of them and dont do a thing for upkeep. this happens to alot of cars. i still see 2 year old 500 hp skittles that walk kenne bell cobras around. if you up keep the car its going to last. they were the hot **** when they came out, it was advertised the fastest car under 20,000 (brand new) and well at the time it was. people flocked to that.

point is its a 12 sec car that he drives to and from the track. he might just emberase you at a redlight one day.

i say thats a pretty good bang for the buck.
 
people have gone 13.3's with the neon stock with just a 5 dollar home deput spring mod. it can be cheap. its still a car just like an camaro our anything else. hell it takes alot more to get our cars that fast. so pretty much your dishing the hell out of our cars.

why contuie to try and turn this into an argument. it is what it is. a fast car, no matter how they got there
 
WhiteDevil said:
****, take an LS1 put a few hundred into it and you re sitting mid to low 11's's on street tires, very high 10's if the driver is skilled enough, and has a hot tire.
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I'm Going to dissagree here. While I won't argue that these motor's are impressive in the power they can make when they are built with performance part's I will argue that you can't do it with ''A few hundred bucks''


PLEASE tell me how you come to getting a stock ls1 in a stock F-body to run MID TO LOW 11's or EVEN BETTER HIGH 10's for the amount of money you say??



You tell me that and I may even think about buying what I think is the MOST uncomfortable interior of a car for a 6'2'' guy I have EVER and will ever be in.
 


a few of the ls1's i was hanging out with this weekend...

ls-X 396
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383 stroker
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ls-X 408
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none of them were 10sec cars.

the 383 strocker is knocking on 10's with about 3-4k into mods. that 396 is mid 11 car and he has about the same into it.

it takes more than just a cam to get an ls1 mid to low 11's. cam alone is a couple hundred bucks, then what about gaskets and all, what about valve springs, what about tires, what about clutches-stalls. a camed ls1 has still have to have full boltons to go mid 11's. those parts start adding up in a hurry.

its not as easy as just slaping a cam in it
 
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also just to add to it. this 306 put a hurting on the 408 and the 396 :D

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if anything i rather build a fox body out with the money
 
TDCRacing said:
I'm Going to dissagree here. While I won't argue that these motor's are impressive in the power they can make when they are built with performance part's I will argue that you can't do it with ''A few hundred bucks''


PLEASE tell me how you come to getting a stock ls1 in a stock F-body to run MID TO LOW 11's or EVEN BETTER HIGH 10's for the amount of money you say??



You tell me that and I may even think about buying what I think is the MOST uncomfortable interior of a car for a 6'2'' guy I have EVER and will ever be in.
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Try being 6'7 and driving an F-Body it sucks.

TO get a stock 12 second car( yes it is a 12 second car/13's with teen drivers) its all in the top end, Im speaking from a builders perspective, who knows how to open an engine up for pennies on the dollar.

they are like 5.0's a dime a dozen, parts can be interchanged, fabricated or just retooled to get impressive gains.

You dont need top dollar name brand **** to go fast, I built a 355( bored 350) for 400 bucks including purchase price and it was a 11 second motor, in a 4k pound car. went very high 12's all day and was a daily driven vehicle.

If you cant get a LS1 to break out of its own factory time bracket for a few hundo you got no business driving one.
 
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