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I Pity The Vegan.

If you can convince a pride of African lions to become vegans. I will also become a vegan. But until then.
 


FriboRage said:
Cave men didn't have a real strong source of calcium short of eating the actual bones of their kills.
Given they had such short lives, they really didn't need it as much. The not cutting out dairy products was more directed towards today's people that live 100+ years regularly.
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If dairy is your source of bone mineral density, kill yourself.
 
SlowNA06 said:
If dairy is your source of bone mineral density, kill yourself.
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Wow I didnt know you were going to become so angry and hateful over a topic like this...

Obviously, I didnt intend to say that the only reason to consume dairy products is calcuim, I didnt intend to say that is the sole source of calcium, either.
Obviously, there are other sources of calcium in our diets, but there are a lot of things we get from dairy products that are very useful and beneficial to our bodies. (and again, even those vitamins and/or minerals can be found elsewhere too, Im talking as an option.)

Where is your primary source?
 
I'm not angry dude. But seriously, life ain't so hot if you're depending on pasteurized milk [read:sugar water]. Raw milk, however, is a different story... that stuff can be pretty good for you.
 


Historically, milk has been considered to be a near-perfect food for humans, given its high calcium and protein content, and the fact that raw milk is tremendously easy for a healthy person to digest. Hippocrates advocated a raw milk diet to cure tuberculosis, and both the Masai and Swiss based their diets on milk. It's impossible to purchase raw milk easily in the US, and pasteurized and homogenized milk borders on indigestible for most people. Whereas raw milk merely ferments in your intestines (which actually makes it better for you), pasteurized milk putrefies. Additionally, pasteurized milk is shown to be among the top three food allergies, and has symptoms ranging from ear infection and bad breath to asthma, abdominal cramping, diarrhea, croup, and asthma, even in people who are lactose tolerant.

Even skim milk contains 205g of sugar per gallon and has a higher Glycemic Index than fatty milks. Thus, in straining the heck out of your digestive system, you're getting a paltry 145g of protein for your efforts, not all of which will be digested due to the fact that the fat molecules in homogenized milk are broken down into smaller parts and become a stealth delivery system for the proteins that put them directly into your bloodstream, causing allergies. Pasteurization takes care of the rest, destroying all of the enzymes that would aid in the digestion of this chemical monstrosity.

If you want protein, eat meat.
If you want calcium, eat dark leafy greens.
If you want to get them from milk, make friendly with a farmer and get it raw.
 
Since we seem to have some people in here knowlegable about food, does somebody know if we should really be eating corn? I mean its the only food I know of that goes in looking like corn and well... comes out looking like corn. Amirite?
 
from what i understand, core has zero nutritional values at all. its all flavor. no calories, or fat, nothing. goes in, comes out looking the same lol
 
I'm not a big fan because to get to the nutritional value of corn, you've got to chew the heck out of it - chew it to a paste or puree it. Its cellulose coating (which humans cannot digest at all because we lack the required enormous digestive tract) will otherwise protect it the whole time. May as well fill up on rocks. But there's nothing particularly bad for you about eating corn that I know of. I wouldn't make it a staple, though.
 
Ok I'll bite....... I LOVE a big, bloody, just seared on both sides, tender steak. I love it so much that I defile that cow it came from more by non other than...... You guessed it......... A big glass of that very same cows milk. And for that I thank the vegans for not eating meat so there is more for the people just like me.:th_biggrin2: Mmm mmmm good. And still moo'in when it hit the plate.

That being said I have a great respect for Mother Earth and all the tasty morsels.... I mean beautiful animals she has to offer.
 


Dennis Leary:
"Not eating meat is a decision. Eating meat is an instinct."
"This is America! I want a bowl of raw red meat, right now! Forget that! Bring me a live cow over to the table! I'll carve off what I want and RIDE THE REST HOME!"
 
Sandman said:
We're parasites meaning we eat everything in site and move on, I love eating my pork, chicken, and beef but you do need the greens. Vegans/vegetarians are dumb IMO. I am trying to eat healthier so I'm getting organically grown food without the hormones and such.
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fixed that for you
 
Parasite? You mean predator. Parasites generally specialize in their food source.
Cows, horses, and deer eat all the vegetation in sight and move on. Doesn't make them parasites.
Omnivore is merely a term of convenience, and applies to most mammals if taken literally - almost any can eat both meat and plant/fungus/algae. Humans simply tend to insist on combining both plant and animal consumption in a day, often at every meal, due to availability of both, so "omnivore" is most convenient.
 
BillBoost37 said:
Uh...actually our teeth etc are designed around grinding plants...not ripping meat. But yeah..I'm a meat loving, barbecuing type guy.
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I don't think our teeth were designed for just plants either. We have teeth that are good for either. We don't eat right off the animal's bones after a fresh kill, so we don't have a long snout and insanely sharp teeth for that. lol.
 


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