• The site migration is complete! Hopefully everything transferred properly from the multiple decades old software we were using before. If you notice any issues please let me know, thanks! Also, I'm still working on things like chatbox, etc so hopefully those will be working in the next week or two.

FM3 Pics Thread

I just made my r35 today. I love having so much money, any car I wanna build I do it in a sec. But I don't think I could beat you guys yet.. I need to tune it. I don't know what I did with the gearing but it tops out at 226 so that's gotta be changed. I'll race for fun when I get it straightened out.

In the meantime, any tips with gearing?
 


nawarkk said:
I just made my r35 today. I love having so much money, any car I wanna build I do it in a sec. But I don't think I could beat you guys yet.. I need to tune it. I don't know what I did with the gearing but it tops out at 226 so that's gotta be changed. I'll race for fun when I get it straightened out.

In the meantime, any tips with gearing?
Click to expand...

Get a differential...set it for 50/50 split for power distribution.

Then get a RACE tranny and gear it like so...

Final Drive: 3.00
1: 2.11
2: 1.55
3: 1.22
4: 1.03
5: 0.86
6: 0.75

OR...just gift it to me i'm online right now and I can tune it for you.
 
lol thanks blue

I wish I knew what all those numbers did and what's the ratio and what not. I'll have to try it out when I get back home tonight. A few more adjustments here and there and then I'll be ready. :D
 
nawarkk said:
Dude using anything besides the R1 cars they provide you with is gonna make it hard for you to win. Believe me, I used a Koenigsegg for the R2 classes, and if it wasn't for the power that car had over the R2 cars, I would have lost because it can't corner as good as the tuned R2 cars. I would suggest just using the R1 cars they give you, you'll have less of a headache and it'll be fun tackling those turns at 120 mph+. More specifically I suggest using the (green?) Puegot R1 car they give you and just put lighter weight rims on it. You should win everytime, unless there is another Puegot in the race, which then you have to watch out for it. Just a tip :)

I just completed the R1 races tournaments yesterday, and when I finished it, I got so happy because I thought I beat the game... Ummm... nope, there's another R1 tournament with 13 races in it.. FML..

Anyways, here are some pics :D

subbie2.jpg

My Subbie :) Jumping is funn

subbie.jpg

Playing with some effects

bmw3.jpg

The old skool M3 in white is sexyy

bmw1.jpg

And my other Beamer with the wing and front clip, to help it corner since it sucks at cornering with all it's power..
Click to expand...

My bad i meant r3 races i put the z06 not the r1s. Havent made it that far yet
 
bluegtp91 said:
Get a differential...set it for 50/50 split for power distribution.

Then get a RACE tranny and gear it like so...

Final Drive: 3.00
1: 2.11
2: 1.55
3: 1.22
4: 1.03
5: 0.86
6: 0.75

OR...just gift it to me i'm online right now and I can tune it for you.
Click to expand...

IMO that's just too low of a gearset for 1/4 mile. It's not bad, but first gear is extremely long. That would benefit most with a twinscrew supercharged setup. That long of gears isn't going to utilize a turbo'd top end very well.

I recommend experimenting with 1st gear to find out exactly long of a gear you need to be able to retain traction, but while accelerating at a good pace also. As for the rest of the gearbox, remember your setup. This game is extremely close to realism as far as the mechanical side of the cars, and you must tune your gearing respectively.

For example, a turbo'd car is going to want a relatively mid-ranged (3.0-4.0) final drive. Along with a decently long 1st, but you have to remember the turbo lag and to not make first long and drawn out so the turbo can spool quicker instead of being stuck in low rpm's not creating boost or any power. Making 1st gear long is great to gain traction and get a great launch, but it wont do you any good off the line if that turbo can't remain spooled while launching. The rest is pretty easy. Depending upon your car/setup, keep the gearing in the rpm's that the turbo can utilize, or else you'll suffer boost pressure loss (just watch the replays of your runs and look at the boost readings).

And another example. A Supercharged car is going to make an amazing dig monster, but is going to suffer in top end. I can smoke my ghosts half way down the track only to be hunted down by my turbo's top end. A supercharged car's flat torque/ hp curve make it ideal for launching out of the hole. The gearing here, though, is different. You now have to gear it for the low-end torque that the turbo lacked due to lag. This means that each gear can be drawn out a bit more because of the power it has to carry it through the longer gears. But once you hit about 6-7k expect the power to slowy trickle off. It just takes some experimenting and patience.

I hope this gives some insight into the gearing. The tuning seems daunting but once you get the hang of it it's not all that bad.


BTW, Nancy (bluegtp91) I was chilling with the family. I didn't figure you'd get on. It will happen, one of these days....
 
Last edited:


Lsick7 said:
IMO that's just too low of a gearset for 1/4 mile. It's not bad, but first gear is extremely long. That would benefit most with a twinscrew supercharged setup. That long of gears isn't going to utilize a turbo'd top end very well.
Click to expand...

It isn't. Trust me. And utilizing turbo top end?? Those gears are LONG. It's a 260+ mph car. Again...no go on the blower. The gears are too long for a blower and any sort of supercharged setup in this game just runs out of steam. I had the same setup with my Z06...it won't get to 260...it struggles to touch 250. Because last I checked...turbo's have top end...and blowers don't.

Lsick7 said:
I recommend experimenting with 1st gear to find out exactly long of a gear you need to be able to retain traction, but while accelerating at a good pace also. As for the rest of the gearbox, remember your setup. This game is extremely close to realism as far as the mechanical side of the cars, and you must tune your gearing respectively.
Click to expand...

The setup I gave the guy is for a balls out fully modded GTR. Go buy one, mod it...and use my setup. You'll see. It probably won't work on a VeeDub.

Lsick7 said:
For example, a turbo'd car is going to want a relatively mid-ranged (3.0-4.0) final drive. Along with a decently long 1st, but you have to remember the turbo lag and to not make first long and drawn out so the turbo can spool quicker instead of being stuck in low rpm's not creating boost or any power. Making 1st gear long is great to gain traction and get a great launch, but it wont do you any good off the line if that turbo can't remain spooled while launching. The rest is pretty easy. Depending upon your car/setup, keep the gearing in the rpm's that the turbo can utilize, or else you'll suffer boost pressure loss (just watch the replays of your runs and look at the boost readings).
Click to expand...

Considering 900hp with a shorter 1st gear is pointless since this thing blows all 4 tires off anyways to 100 mph...my 1/4 times improve for at LEAST a half a second by running the "too long" setup. And turbo lag doesn't really exist for the GTR...maybe a fully modded R32 has it...but its only boosting around 25psi. And you can't say Mid-ranged either IMO...because a 3.00 final drive car is WAY different than a 3.50 and then a 4.00. I'd say a 3.55 or a 3.73 is a good mid-range setup. Longer gears...3.20's...or sit them around 3.00 and mess with the 5th and 6th gears because that's where your top end is going to be.

Lsick7 said:
And another example. A Supercharged car is going to make an amazing dig monster, but is going to suffer in top end. I can smoke my ghosts half way down the track only to be hunted down by my turbo's top end. A supercharged car's flat torque/ hp curve make it ideal for launching out of the hole. The gearing here, though, is different. You now have to gear it for the low-end torque that the turbo lacked due to lag. This means that each gear can be drawn out a bit more because of the power it has to carry it through the longer gears. But once you hit about 6-7k expect the power to slowy trickle off. It just takes some experimenting and patience.
Click to expand...

ONLY, if were talking AWD. A turbo/procharged setup will eat a blown car all day long from a dig with RWD/FWD. But I'll run ya in my too long of geared GTR with your supercharged R32 then please...just to show you :th_biggrin2:
 
SaW1833 said:
Isn't a procharger just a brand name for a centrifugal supercharger?

So to rephrase a turbo/centrifugal supercharged setup would eat a twin-screw set-up all day. Correct?
Click to expand...

Right...I just say Procharger because its easier to type then centrifugal supercharger :p
 


I'm gonna play with the gearing tonight and try to do the 1/4 mile and see what I can get with the R35.

How would you change the gears to get it to be better at drifting? I always try and drift the cars but the gearing I guess is wrong so the wheels don't spin when the car is sideways resulting in a FAIL.
 


bluegtp91 said:
It isn't. Trust me. And utilizing turbo top end?? Those gears are LONG. It's a 260+ mph car. Again...no go on the blower. The gears are too long for a blower and any sort of supercharged setup in this game just runs out of steam. I had the same setup with my Z06...it won't get to 260...it struggles to touch 250. Because last I checked...turbo's have top end...and blowers don't.
Click to expand...

Those gears are long, and you're right. And i was just saying for using that in a 1/4 mile seems a bit long, when top speed isn't necessarily needed, and that the low-end torque of an SC could benefit carrying the car out of the hole. I agree with no go on the blower, the supercharged setups in any of the cars get toasted as I stated earlier. My VW isn't s/c'd it's TT. And turbo's do have top end advantage, it just seemed to me that it would have a little bit of lag with each gear being spread decently apart. But, i haven't driven a GTR with that setup so i can't bash, in my VW my setup works great.


bluegtp91 said:
Considering 900hp with a shorter 1st gear is pointless since this thing blows all 4 tires off anyways to 100 mph...my 1/4 times improve for at LEAST a half a second by running the "too long" setup. And turbo lag doesn't really exist for the GTR...maybe a fully modded R32 has it...but its only boosting around 25psi. And you can't say Mid-ranged either IMO...because a 3.00 final drive car is WAY different than a 3.50 and then a 4.00. I'd say a 3.55 or a 3.73 is a good mid-range setup. Longer gears...3.20's...or sit them around 3.00 and mess with the 5th and 6th gears because that's where your top end is going to be.
Click to expand...

This is where we differ, and i can understand why you had to compensate the long gears for your car. My VW has only 690 HP, but runs consistent mid 9's. I wasn't under the impression that the GTR fully built put out that much power. And while you have no lag, I do, but it is easily made up with my suspension/damping setup that allows me to get out of the hole with ZERO traction issues off the line dumping it at 5k. And you're car puts out 25 psi? Mine has a measley 17, lol.

Let me continue my tuning quest and we'll have to see. As for my car it's only a 703 R3 class. If we were to race class for class, I can still hit mid-high 9's with a 690 S class.
 
I am so disgusted with you Blue

How the hell did you get that R35 into 8.99 in the 1/4 mile??

I tried a million times and tuned a million different ways, and the best I got was 9.305.. What did you do dfiferently that I'm not doing??
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top