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ethanol free premium gasoline

SgtMarshal

SgtMarshal

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I found the gas station that sells ethanol free gasoline, and someone suggested that it might be non oxygenated. The gas station should know if it is or isn't oxygenated, right? and if it isn't, then it isn't worth buying, right? otherwise, it should be better because the energy rating will be higher.
 


Keep in mind that gasoline tends to pretty much all come from the same place. You basically have the branded manufacturers who sell gasoline they refined themselves (i.e. Mobil, Shell, etc.) and then you have a bunch of stations who buy from whatever refiner has the best price that day (Joe's corner gas stations, and many branded gas stations as well).

If you see a Mobil truck at a Mobil station you can be "pretty sure" it is gasoline refined by Mobil. But many Mobil stations can buy from "whoever" as well.

Based on that, I'm skeptical that you truly found ethanol-free gasoline, unless they have their own refineries in place or order a custom-blended gasoline (which would require its own distribution network). Read the fine print super carefully and be skeptical about this claim.

And you can try asking the people that work there, but in many cases I would also be skeptical that they really have a true grasp of what you would be asking them...

-Bob C.
 
bobc455 said:
Keep in mind that gasoline tends to pretty much all come from the same place. You basically have the branded manufacturers who sell gasoline they refined themselves (i.e. Mobil, Shell, etc.) and then you have a bunch of stations who buy from whatever refiner has the best price that day (Joe's corner gas stations, and many branded gas stations as well).

If you see a Mobil truck at a Mobil station you can be "pretty sure" it is gasoline refined by Mobil. But many Mobil stations can buy from "whoever" as well.

Based on that, I'm skeptical that you truly found ethanol-free gasoline, unless they have their own refineries in place or order a custom-blended gasoline (which would require its own distribution network). Read the fine print super carefully and be skeptical about this claim.

And you can try asking the people that work there, but in many cases I would also be skeptical that they really have a true grasp of what you would be asking them...

-Bob C.
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You can doubt it all you want, but there are still some stations that sell ethanol free fuel, though it is becoming more and more rare.

I wish we had E-free fuel around here. It is inefficient, both in hurting fuel mileage, as well as production itself.
 


stealthee said:
You can doubt it all you want, but there are still some stations that sell ethanol free fuel, though it is becoming more and more rare.
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I didn't say that I doubted it - I just advised a lot of skepticism, and I stand by that advice!

99% of consumers could care less, so there is very little impetus for gas stations to sell a more expensive fuel on a super-price-competitive market.

As it is, I have enough problems buying the octane level of fuel that I'm paying for...
 
I know in Oklahoma there are a lot of stations that sell ethanol free fuel. I Drove from Houston to Shawnee and on the way back fueled up on the ethanol free to see what if my gas mileage would increase. It was slightly higher than on my trip up there, but there were too many variables so I threw it out. I had a little over an eighth of E10 so I couldn't say exactly. I know when we started using blended fuel down here I did notice a drop in gas mileage as the average dropped about .3 of a point.

Jeff
 
Ethanol is not a bad thing it burns cleaner and helps keep your engine cleaner for longer. sure your mileage won't be as great but long term effects of ethanol are way more positive then you'd think. **** 100%gas
 
The biggest desire I could see for 100% ethanol free fuel would be in a small engine. Like a lawn mower. Something that sits for a long time between uses and still has a carburetor.
 


ethanol is more corrosive, and attracts water, so I do not believe that ethanol is as good as you suggest. as far as it burning cleaner, who really cares? the amount of pollution emitted by one vehicle is insignificant in comparison to other things.
 
Are u really on that corrosive ****. sounds like your still believing oil company propoganda. not one person I know on e85 ever had corrosive effects from e85 including myself who has ran it for 2+years

It burning cleaner is a refrence to your engine gas burs dirty as hell compared to ethanol which keeps your internals a lot cleaner than gas ever could
 
Really? Really? Are you kidding me? Not corrosive? I guess you haven't had to change fule pump sending units in any of your older cars then did you? As far as cleaner burning I have worked on many many engines and any properly maintained engine will be just as clean as one running E10. I have taken enough engines apart to know. You see any reciprocating engine aircraft burning E anything?

Jeff
 
the corrosiveness probably isnt bad, but more so than gasoline, and what is the purpose of a fuel pump designed for ethanol? maybe it does burn cleaner, I'm not real sure about that, but I do want to try out the ethanol free stuff and see what difference it makes.
 
J57ltr said:
Really? Really? Are you kidding me? Not corrosive? I guess you haven't had to change fule pump sending units in any of your older cars then did you? As far as cleaner burning I have worked on many many engines and any properly maintained engine will be just as clean as one running E10. I have taken enough engines apart to know. You see any reciprocating engine aircraft burning E anything?

Jeff
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First off these older cars u refer to were running on gasoline anyway. E85 can't be called the factor in your b.s statement. a properly maintained engine engine runs cleaner with ethanol that is fact. And u know it. However we know 99% of vehicles on the road aren't properly maintained. Then lastly I'm aviation to. A airplane engine can run off whatever the engineer wants it to run off. For instance our mq-1c runs off of jp8 Dieseal fuel. So if someone want to run a plane on E85 they could but the complications of storage would come into play. Av gas is completely differentbecause you need something with stupid high octane to overcome the lack of oxygen at regular flight levels for optimum performance
 


SgtMarshal said:
the corrosiveness probably isnt bad, but more so than gasoline, and what is the purpose of a fuel pump designed for ethanol? maybe it does burn cleaner, I'm not real sure about that, but I do want to try out the ethanol free stuff and see what difference it makes.
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Just about everything since the 90's can run alcohol blended fuels from the factory. I ran it my gxp which was never a flex fuel car for over 20k miles and came out looking new. I only wanted the E85 pump for increased flow with the nitrous I'm running here's pics of the factory pump which used e85. This Wat at 104k




 
the last town I lived in had an airport nearby that sold 104 octane leaded. came out to be about 5 dollars a gallon. that stuff smelled amazing. best gasoline ever.

I used to work in aviation, and some of the guys would periodically talk about putting JP 8 in their diesel trucks. no one ever did, we weren't real sure about what would happen.
 
coolone said:
I wish they still had leaded hi-test!!!
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They do--> Gulf Legend 116: A leaded, ethanol free fuel, it provides the maximum performance in engines that require lead. A fuel for naturally aspirated high compression engines or forced induction and nitrous applications. Specifications: Research Octane 116, Motor Octane 110,R+M/2 115.
 
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