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Does powder coating fade

For sure Joey...you know the number and I'm on here most of the time.

To OP for the price you paid you can't have to much hate...I would split the cost when and if I had the money to make the situation right I I was the seller. I can tell you I seem the car in person and it did not look like a plain Jane paint job on the calipers..looked powder coated to me. If there was a issue with shipping or being damaged by the post office you need to handle that with them. You have to take blame for some of it..if you waited to long to file dispute. Didn't offer to add or pay insurance on them etc. I can say I've done transaction with the seller before without any issues and won't hesitate to again in the future.
 


Logan541 said:
You may want to brush up on the law and definitions of fraud this is right from the US Postal Office
[h=3]Mail[/h] 18 U.S.C. § 1341 provides:
Whoever, having devised or intending to devise any scheme or artifice to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises, or to sell, dispose of, loan, exchange, alter, give away, distribute, supply, or furnish or procure for unlawful use any counterfeit or spurious coin, obligation, security, or other article, or anything represented to be or intimated or held out to be such counterfeit or spurious article, for the purpose of executing such scheme or artifice or attempting so to do, places in any post office or authorized depository for mail matter, any matter or thing whatever to be sent or delivered by the Postal Service, or deposits or causes to be deposited any matter or thing whatever to be sent or delivered by any private or commercial interstate carrier, or takes or receives therefrom, any such matter or thing, or knowingly causes to be delivered by mail or such carrier according to the direction thereon, or at the place at which it is directed to be delivered by the person to whom it is addressed, any such matter or thing, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both. If the violation occurs in relation to, or involving any benefit authorized, transported, transmitted, transferred, disbursed, or paid in connection with, a presidentially declared major disaster or emergency (as those terms are defined in section 102 of the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act (42 U.S.C. 5122)), or affects a financial institution, such person shall be fined not more than $1,000,000 or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both.[SUP][2][/SUP]
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Holy runon lmao
 
To me it looks like you both got screwed.

There is a local guy here that does "powder coating" and I've heard storys on 605racing about how people have seen him touching up spots he missed on the powder coat job with spray paint, not even rustolium but the cheep wal-mart .99 crap. And from the little bit I have heard about minichopper he was possibly doing the exact same thing or half assing it.

As for the damage to the boxes I would never sign for anything that came in a box looking that bad without checking what was inside first. Even without insurance you have a case for negligence there. There is no friggin reason that box should have showed up in that condition.
 
REDCOMPG said:
^ bingo agreed. I can honestly say when I seen the car in person some time ago the calipers looked powder coated and not painted on at all.
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They did look fine at one time, but really fresh paint/powdercoating can look the same. Joe could've been scammed on these and wouldn't have known it till later.

blackspike2710 said:
Sucks when you don't receive the stuff you expect, doesn't it.
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In Joe's defense st least he's here trying to work with you, minichop just took people's money and ran.
 
REDCOMPG said:
For sure Joey...you know the number and I'm on here most of the time.

To OP for the price you paid you can't have to much hate...I would split the cost when and if I had the money to make the situation right I I was the seller. I can tell you I seem the car in person and it did not look like a plain Jane paint job on the calipers..looked powder coated to me. If there was a issue with shipping or being damaged by the post office you need to handle that with them. You have to take blame for some of it..if you waited to long to file dispute. Didn't offer to add or pay insurance on them etc. I can say I've done transaction with the seller before without any issues and won't hesitate to again in the future.
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Thats right i sold you something before REDCOMG, what was it again?


Sandman said:
They did look fine at one time, but really fresh paint/powdercoating can look the same. Joe could've been scammed on these and wouldn't have known it till later.



In Joe's defense st least he's here trying to work with you, minichop just took people's money and ran.
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Well Minichopper did a amazing job on all the **** in the engine bay even doing it with a sandblaster and oven on his apartments balcony (ive been to his house) the calipers didn't look bad when i put them in the box alittle dirty maybe because i didn't have time to clean them up and degreese them.
 
slick2500 said:
To me it looks like you both got screwed.

There is a local guy here that does "powder coating" and I've heard storys on 605racing about how people have seen him touching up spots he missed on the powder coat job with spray paint, not even rustolium but the cheep wal-mart .99 crap. And from the little bit I have heard about minichopper he was possibly doing the exact same thing or half assing it.

As for the damage to the boxes I would never sign for anything that came in a box looking that bad without checking what was inside first. Even without insurance you have a case for negligence there. There is no friggin reason that box should have showed up in that condition.
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I didn't have to sign it was left on my back deck that way
 


REDCOMPG said:
For sure Joey...you know the number and I'm on here most of the time.

To OP for the price you paid you can't have to much hate...I would split the cost when and if I had the money to make the situation right I I was the seller. I can tell you I seem the car in person and it did not look like a plain Jane paint job on the calipers..looked powder coated to me. If there was a issue with shipping or being damaged by the post office you need to handle that with them. You have to take blame for some of it..if you waited to long to file dispute. Didn't offer to add or pay insurance on them etc. I can say I've done transaction with the seller before without any issues and won't hesitate to again in the future.
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I contact him several times he assured me they were being shipped out soon as he got back then after he got them off he seemed like a stand up guy I seen him on the forum a lot so I trusted him but HE shipped after paypal protection ran out, so I could not file a dispute he did not tell me he was not insuring them nor offer it whenever I ship anything I insure it I figured common sense anyone would.
 
REDCOMPG said:
For sure Joey...you know the number and I'm on here most of the time.

To OP for the price you paid you can't have to much hate...I would split the cost when and if I had the money to make the situation right I I was the seller. I can tell you I seem the car in person and it did not look like a plain Jane paint job on the calipers..looked powder coated to me. If there was a issue with shipping or being damaged by the post office you need to handle that with them. You have to take blame for some of it..if you waited to long to file dispute. Didn't offer to add or pay insurance on them etc. I can say I've done transaction with the seller before without any issues and won't hesitate to again in the future.
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and if you check back on previous post I did offer to split the cost with him I still have no reply
 
Spartan GL said:
After shipping $70ish


You can still file a claim with an uninsured item.


Sorry bud, only had 1 set of calipers... the ones that were on my car. now i have GXP rotors



According to what he told me is he needed a pair of calipers to ether get powdercoated or to put on his car while he powdercoated his own brake calipers.
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Man your nose is going to grow I said I was going to epoxy paint mine but when I saw yours I figured powder coat was better AND even if that is what you somehow mis interpreted what Iwas going to do, you mean that gives you the right to sell crap and lie about it? Wow nice conecpt
 


USPS does not require a signature unless it is requested by the shipper.

Also any and all insurance claims would be denied due to improper packaging. Another responsilbility of the shipper.
 
USPS said that's the way they received it hence the sticker on it, no packing materials (foam, bubble wrap. etc) puts the responsibility on the shipper.
 
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stealthee said:
USPS does not require a signature unless it is requested by the shipper.

Also any and all insurance claims would be denied due to improper packaging. Another responsilbility of the shipper.
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Thanks stealthee I know this guy isn't going to do the right thing its just if I can warn other about him hey it saves someone some aggravation, its principle at this point
 
Sandman said:
They did look fine at one time, but really fresh paint/powdercoating can look the same. Joe could've been scammed on these and wouldn't have known it till later.



In Joe's defense st least he's here trying to work with you, minichop just took people's money and ran.
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Like maybe
So "Joe could've been scammed on these and wouldn't have known it till later. " Like maybe when listed this crap and pawned it off and still that does NOT explain the brake dust and the rust to that degree more than one person on this site said that is way more than 1500 miles so while he was in iraq someone could have been driving his car. and you say he is working with me...umm how read all the posts he states he is not responsible (which is true in a way he is obvioulsy very irresponible or he would have made sure they were packe properly and insured them) and he avioded my phone calls or any contact with me it took me weeks to reach him (check his build thread ) I had to contact him on his build thread to ask if he was going to call me thats when he finnaly got back to me he ignored pms and phone calls. So how is he working with me? I offered to have him refund half the money.
 


Spartan GL said:
I posted the picture above and posted 97-03 brake calipers for sale $100 shipped. he got exactly that. I am not liable for the damage caused by USPS and will not take responsibility for their ****ty shipping procedures of throwing around boxes. When i had them there was no chips on them. as seen in the pictures above. if you want to complain about the coating of them contact minichopper in Orlando good luck getting hold of his ass he still has one of my superchargers. What ever surface rust is on them is from you storing them. the giant chips and scratches are from USPS file a claim with them. they were in perfect working order when they came off my car and shipped.
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Yep he posted the pics if ypu check the captions he said that was when i=he FIRST put them on his car
 
Spartan GL said:
I had no idea this thread existed before you sent me the link. also on the pretense of mail fraud wouldn't apply in this case. You held a private transaction for a used car part and the part was damaged by the United States Postal Service. You were not deprived of anything or schemed into buying a counterfeit item. On top of everything the actual value of the item is less then $70. furthermore you are in a completely different Court District then I and if you are thinking "Oh hey federal court" they don't take cases of this level.

You got the item you paid for. USPS damaged it.
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Imtersting that you should know this commit fraud much? lol
 
slick2500 said:
To me it looks like you both got screwed.

There is a local guy here that does "powder coating" and I've heard storys on 605racing about how people have seen him touching up spots he missed on the powder coat job with spray paint, not even rustolium but the cheep wal-mart .99 crap. And from the little bit I have heard about minichopper he was possibly doing the exact same thing or half assing it.

As for the damage to the boxes I would never sign for anything that came in a box looking that bad without checking what was inside first. Even without insurance you have a case for negligence there. There is no friggin reason that box should have showed up in that condition.
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Again thye sticker on there indicated the box was recievd by the post office damage and without insurance or proper packing a claim can not be filed,check with local post office they will explain it to you the same way they did to me. The seller would have to offer proof he packed the properly which if what he is saying is true could be resolve by takeing his but to the guy that shipped it and speaking to him and fileing a complaint against him.But for some reason he ignores that, I've mentioned it to him several times
 
Here is how I feel about this...

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Beetlejuice pretty well sums it up.
 
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