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Replacing a leaking oil gasket on an 01 GTP, I'd like to swap over to the aluminum pan. I live in Raleigh NC, 27607.
 
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Re: WTB aluminum oil pan, pickup and bracket

you dont want it...stick with the steel pan, replace the gasket and rtv the gasket sealing bead all the way around on the pan side and at least the front and rear cover seams on the oil pan rail.

if your pan is dented/rusting get an aftermarket pan (GMP11b iirc)
they seem to not have as many ripples in the stamping as the OEM but id still rtv the full pan side...the block is pretty flat...
 
Re: WTB aluminum oil pan, pickup and bracket

Why do you say that? I'm really more interested in the ease of re installation and future work with the aluminum pan bracket. I guess I could just take the U bracket out and put the newer style bracket in.
 
Re: WTB aluminum oil pan, pickup and bracket

i dont see much of a good cost/benifit on it...from a performance standpoint the alum pan is a step backward as the windage tray is not nearly as good as the plastic gasket/windage tray used with the steel pans.

the motor mount brackets arent much different in terms of level of "PITA"

honestly if your fixing a leak id say save your money on that bugger and spend the time and $ to yank the motor and regasket the engine...lately ive found more than 50% of the rear block cover gaskets are leaking oil/coolant internally/externally and thats a potential death sentence...
 
Re: WTB aluminum oil pan, pickup and bracket

Hmm. I appreciate the input. I've read on here several people talk about that rear block cover. It's my DD though, and I don't have access to a lift or engine stand. You've given me some things to think about though.
 
Re: WTB aluminum oil pan, pickup and bracket

WHen it came time to fix the leaking oil pan gasket on my 2000 GTP, I chose the alum. pan over fixing the steel pan/ gasket design for several reasons, 1) the cost of the new pan/pickup/bracket was minimal over the cost of a new steel pan/gasket. 2) I did not want to deal with reinstalling the "u" bracket with my big hands, 3) the aluminum pan and RTV is a better sealing design than the overdesigned and underperforming plastic/rubber gasket the steel pan uses. 4) provides a nice place to put a jack if needed when working on engine, or engine mounts. One thing to note is that when finished installation a small steel tab on the sub frame may need to be removed.
 


Re: WTB aluminum oil pan, pickup and bracket

I know this is bordering on being in the wrong area now, but could you use the newer bracket with the steel oil pan?
 
Re: WTB aluminum oil pan, pickup and bracket

No, you cannot use the newer bracket with the steel pan due to the new bracket needing to bolt into the end of the oil pan.
Don't worry about the windage being inferior to the windage gasket for the steel pan... just clean the inside of the pan and seal the gap along the edges with some Permatex Ultra Black or Right Stuff.... just be sure to give the rtv a day or two to cure before you install it so it can bond to metal better.

I have an aluminum pan with correct pickup tube and correct lower bracket but you will need to supply the 3 bolts as I cannot find the ones I got with this.
I can do $80 shipped -most people sell the pan for $50-60 shipped but don't include the necessary (and expensive to buy new) pickup tube or the lower motor mount bracket.
I will have it pressure washed so at most you will have only some very slight old rtv or other light clean up to do when you get it.
PM or text me with any further questions.
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Re: WTB aluminum oil pan, pickup and bracket

Awesome. Except....last night I got in there and took my wheel and fender well guard off to scope out the job, and found my motor mount squished and gooey as well as my LCA ball socket bushing(s....both sides) slam wore out. I'm afraid that kills my "nice to have" oil pan budget. Sorry for the change, but money decided for me... I'm leaning towards pulling the engine now, I'll start a thread with pics when I do. Thanks again!
 


Just realized I have a really low mile lower motor mount that I could include for $10... factory GM with under 10k miles.
 
Way to sweeten the pot...I've already got the "solid" one on order from Rock Auto though, along with some plugs, wires, and moog LCA's. I'll def keep you in mind in the future though, I appreciate the response.
 
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