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I actually did add plenty to the multiple discussions at hand.

I'm also not an admin, keep it up happy :)

I also didn't edit anything either ;)
 


GTPpower said:
Hahahaha. Nice edit.

Also, thanks for coming in here and starting personal bashing. What a great admin you are. You have no experience or knowledge to add to this thread, so out comes the bashing.

I'll just watch this thread until car discussions actually continue.
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You continue to argue as well.

You are just as guilty.

And personally, nick is a great moderator of this forum, has helped me multiple times, and even in person.
 
Lulz... I said after its runs, meaning after it goes to the track, makes however many passes they feel like that day it goes home, to a professional garage, and then they tear it down and replace the parts. I never said after "EACH" run. That would just be rediculous, and you both are stupid for taking it that way.

Show me 1, just 1 video of ZZPs car at the track and something breaks. It doesn't because as with most CORPORATE SPONSORED cars, they are re-built so they don't break down. Nothing looks worse than a big $$$ car breaking on the track because they ran it too hard 3 months prior.

Same with NASCAR and most pro-racing builds, it gets rebuilt to make sure it can do what its suppose to.

If you think I am wrong, please show me proof.
 
TLSheff said:
Lulz... I said after its runs, meaning after it goes to the track, makes however many passes they feel like that day it goes home, to a professional garage, and then they tear it down and replace the parts. I never said after "EACH" run. That would just be rediculous, and you both are stupid for taking it that way.

Show me 1, just 1 video of ZZPs car at the track and something breaks. It doesn't because as with most CORPORATE SPONSORED cars, they are re-built so they don't break down. Nothing looks worse than a big $$$ car breaking on the track because they ran it too hard 3 months prior.

Same with NASCAR and most pro-racing builds, it gets rebuilt to make sure it can do what its suppose to.

If you think I am wrong, please show me proof.
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Professional garage...?
Your sadly mistaken if you think they don't or havn't broke stuff.
I don't care how much money you have or how new your parts are stuff breaks if your pushing it...thats racing!
 


TLSheff said:
Lulz... I said after its runs, meaning after it goes to the track, makes however many passes they feel like that day it goes home, to a professional garage, and then they tear it down and replace the parts. I never said after "EACH" run. That would just be rediculous, and you both are stupid for taking it that way.

Show me 1, just 1 video of ZZPs car at the track and something breaks. It doesn't because as with most CORPORATE SPONSORED cars, they are re-built so they don't break down. Nothing looks worse than a big $$$ car breaking on the track because they ran it too hard 3 months prior.

Same with NASCAR and most pro-racing builds, it gets rebuilt to make sure it can do what its suppose to.

If you think I am wrong, please show me proof.
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A run is considered a pass down the track. You can see how easily that is misconstrued. You then compared ZZP to top-fuel racers, who actually do tear down the motor after each run.

I wouldn't expect them not to work on the car, after all, they were in the business of trying to catch up with Intense. However, I do recall Mattm saying on clubgp a couple years ago about how they had over 50 passes on their trans and haven't touched it.
 
I dont have proof but i know when it was tt it never broke the stock lower end. They put in a off the shelf built one when they changed out to the 8000rpm setup. Other than melting a quarter sized hole in a head i have not known of any broken longblocks out of matts car.

I can personally say i have found similar results in my own car.
 


Iceman6669 said:
Hum... My 253k mile trans with a shift kit and no input shaft issues might have to disagree with you..
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that guy has some firm beliefs that a shift kit is bad for a stock trans. people have been running shift kits in all sorts of applications for years and years. HP breaks parts, not a shift kit.

and a shift kit can and will prolong the life a trans thats driven like a human as well.

beating on it will kill it no matter what you've done to it. burn outs, repeated hard launches. those lovely 30 mph roll launches, modded engine doing the listed abuse as well as stock.

im the kind of person who likes to feel each shift, even driving nice and easy i still feel a fast firm shift. with my shift kit in a stock trans.

if i turn off the perf shift, it shifts rather normal.


@ GTPpower your the only person ive ever heard saying a shift kit is bad in a stock trans. and i know a few trans shops mechanics.
 
scottydoggs said:
that guy has some firm beliefs that a shift kit is bad for a stock trans. people have been running shift kits in all sorts of applications for years and years. HP breaks parts, not a shift kit.

and a shift kit can and will prolong the life a trans thats driven like a human as well.

beating on it will kill it no matter what you've done to it. burn outs, repeated hard launches. those lovely 30 mph roll launches, modded engine doing the listed abuse as well as stock.

im the kind of person who likes to feel each shift, even driving nice and easy i still feel a fast firm shift. with my shift kit in a stock trans.

if i turn off the perf shift, it shifts rather normal.


@ GTPpower your the only person ive ever heard saying a shift kit is bad in a stock trans. and i know a few trans shops mechanics.
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I would invite you to back-up what you just said.

Excluding what I have done with my cars, and cars I've tuned, I can show countless other examples where underpowered cars are breaking hard parts.
 
GTPpower said:
I would invite you to back-up what you just said.

Excluding what I have done with my cars, and cars I've tuned, I can show countless other examples where underpowered cars are breaking hard parts.
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So what ur telling us is that all the research and time building trannys that TEP has done isn't correct...that their shift kit research is wrong?

Sent from my pager using Morse code. ... .. ... ....
 
marines542 said:
So what ur telling us is that all the research and time building trannys that TEP has done isn't correct...that their shift kit research is wrong?

Sent from my pager using Morse code. ... .. ... ....
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I didn't say anything of the sort. Please elaborate.
 


GTPpower said:
I would invite you to back-up what you just said.

Excluding what I have done with my cars, and cars I've tuned, I can show countless other examples where underpowered cars are breaking hard parts.
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yes by beating the piss out of them.

never in my life have i heard, holly sh it this shift caused the breaking of hard parts in my trans uttered from anyone.

and its also rare to hear of a hard part breaking while driving it normally. it always starts out like this, so i went around the corner and smoked my tire, then i heard this noise and the car wont move. yeah, you blew it up.
 
GTPpower said:
I would invite you to back-up what you just said.

Excluding what I have done with my cars, and cars I've tuned, I can show countless other examples where underpowered cars are breaking hard parts.
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Underpowered like my 14 sec 253k car???
 
ive also heard people try to bs me by saying that if you service ur tranny regularly it will cause it to burn up do i listen no
 
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