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BLUEGTP91's BUILD...Page 25 has some vids :D

Re: BLUEGTP91's BUILD!!

Swash said:
Who cares who is betting against you - you are the one paying for this. If it doesn't get done - it doesn't get done - and you'll drive the damn Cobalt down. I can't tell you how bad it gripes me to have to drive my car down all busted up in the front - but I have no choice at the moment...and I'm still going to go. I'm just going to hang out with some friends and chill for a couple of days. But I do understand the burn to get it built and drive it down - trust me. All I'm saying is like Mark told me - it isn't worth breaking it if you rush through it just to drive it down there.

I'd offer to help - but I can't even finish sh!t I've been working on for over a year. :( If you have any questions - you got my number.

-Swash
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I agree 100%. Who cares? I don't know whos betting against you (or care), but how I see it... What do they have? Do they have the money to do what you're gonna do? Can they front you the money if something happens catastropic? I bet all those answers are NOs.

Its your car, your money. If you want it to last, triple check everything, do it right the first time, and don't rush! If something doesn't look right, stop, ask and get the right answer. Your building this for yourself, not Joe Blow down the street. Get it broke in properly before running it hard, you have nothing to prove to anyone. (which I know you waiting for an IC, thats good).

If you make to Branson with the GP, great, if you don't great. Who cares! Yeah its nice to have the car there too, but the cars don't hang out and talk, the people do. I wanna see ya there and hang with you with or without the GTP. :th_thumbsup-wink: Whos your daddy? :th_nanana::th_laugh-pointup:

Seriously though, I wish you lived within 100 miles of me, I'd be more than happy to give you a hand with this project every weekend until it was up and running. I wish there were 3800 projects like this around here.

Good luck man, and see YOU (for sure) at Branson...
 


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Swash said:
Now where is that smiley of the guy just shaking his head....dammit


Nick - you know the drill - but I'm gonna say it again anyway. Pay attention to the details - clean out bolt holes thoroughly, clean, clean, clean, and then clean it again. Pay attention to torque specs and assembly lube is cheap - so use the fawk out of it. You know that I know first hand about doing a "fast" build and breaking one in on the way to Branson...

-Swash
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Off topic...

I hate to be nosey Swash, but whats the whole story about that engine build before Branson deal? I've heard bits and pieces, i'm just curious what all happened.

Also, what happen to the GTO?

Move to PM if you wish....
 
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I have the money, or just as much as nick. Nick and I are friends. Nick and I are in the same club. I was just playing with nick. I did a build once. I'm doing one now. read on hater
 
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Iron Indian said:
I agree 100%. Who cares? I don't know whos betting against you (or care), but how I see it... What do they have? Do they have the money to do what you're gonna do? Can they front you the money if something happens catastropic? I bet all those answers are NOs.

Its your car, your money. If you want it to last, triple check everything, do it right the first time, and don't rush! If something doesn't look right, stop, ask and get the right answer. Your building this for yourself, not Joe Blow down the street. Get it broke in properly before running it hard, you have nothing to prove to anyone. (which I know you waiting for an IC, thats good).

If you make to Branson with the GP, great, if you don't great. Who cares! Yeah its nice to have the car there too, but the cars don't hang out and talk, the people do. I wanna see ya there and hang with you with or without the GTP. :th_thumbsup-wink: Whos your daddy? :th_nanana::th_laugh-pointup:

Seriously though, I wish you lived within 100 miles of me, I'd be more than happy to give you a hand with this project every weekend until it was up and running. I wish there were 3800 projects like this around here.

Good luck man, and see YOU (for sure) at Branson...
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Well damnit...if you just moved up here we wouldn't have to worry about that now would we? LOL Don't worry...if I don't get it done then so be it...I know. This one is NOT getting rushed...I just had this huge plan because I was supposed to be promoted at the end of June...but it isn't coming through until the end of September, which cut my funding A LOT...plus being out of work for nearly 4 months didn't help that at all either :th_shakinghead1:

And don't you think for one second Nancy that I am gonna miss it...I'm rockin a Cobalt or Cavy this year...oh...and they will be raced too...dropped catback and open intake...free mods FTW LMAO

:th_peaceout:

And as for Shannon's GTP...I think they finished it at like 6 o'clock in the morning the day OF Branson...'07 :D

Just kind of a update here too...I got the heads sent of to the local shop; RAD Performance...my buddy's Dad has worked there for years and never even knew...anywho...hogged out port and polish, decked, seated...with of course all new Viton seals/locks. This thing is gonna roll out. Pics to come soon...oh, and the block...its getting hot tanked and painted...but not Chevy Orange like the last one LOL

deangtp said:
I have the money, or just as much as nick. Nick and I are friends. Nick and I are in the same club. I was just playing with nick. I did a build once. I'm doing one now. read on hater
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Dean...you'll have a call probably this weekend if you wanna drop by for some food and beer...I've got it ready to pull minus the 3 flywheel bolts and I need a extra hand for that one :th_biggrin2:
 
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deangtp said:
I have the money, or just as much as nick. Nick and I are friends. Nick and I are in the same club. I was just playing with nick. I did a build once. I'm doing one now. read on hater
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Dude, I think you have me misunderstood. First off, I wasn't talk **** about his friends giving him a hard time, thats a given. Hell, I try and give him **** now and then myself. Its all good. Nothing was aimed towards you, I don't even know ya.

My post was aimed towards people who are true dicks and talk **** about Nick, his car, and his abilities. You know just as well as me that most people out there who talk **** have nothing to back up there **** either, know what I mean? From how I understood his post, I thought there were some dicks out there putting him down. See my point of view now?

Hope you have nothing against me, there are no hard feelings on my end, there never was....
 


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bluegtp91 said:
Well damnit...if you just moved up here we wouldn't have to worry about that now would we? LOL Don't worry...if I don't get it done then so be it...I know. This one is NOT getting rushed...I just had this huge plan because I was supposed to be promoted at the end of June...but it isn't coming through until the end of September, which cut my funding A LOT...plus being out of work for nearly 4 months didn't help that at all either :th_shakinghead1:
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I know how you feel on cash flow. Oil Industry is slow, lay offs are common and overtime is very minimal. Last several years I was rolling good, this year its very tight though. Our company went through a cooperate wide pay cut which effected everyone including myself, it sucks. With a baby on the way, things are gonna be even tighter.


And don't you think for one second Nancy that I am gonna miss it...I'm rockin a Cobalt or Cavy this year...oh...and they will be raced too...dropped catback and open intake...free mods FTW LMAO

:th_peaceout:
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LOL! Well if I don't see the GTP, i'll look forward to that!


And as for Shannon's GTP...I think they finished it at like 6 o'clock in the morning the day OF Branson...'07 :D
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Thats what i've heard...
 
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Iron Indian said:
Off topic...

I hate to be nosey Swash, but whats the whole story about that engine build before Branson deal? I've heard bits and pieces, i'm just curious what all happened.

Also, what happen to the GTO?

Move to PM if you wish....
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Not nosey at all man. I was driving "briskly" one day - merely matching (and beating) the similar "brisk" pace of an S4 - when she just lost power - total compression dump. Started running rough - SES, pulled the codes - and...

plug2.jpg
(not actually my plug - but same problem)

That was April 11th 2007. I drove it for a while after that, until it got so bad I didn't want to risk total bottom end loss. So...August 2nd (BGPM '07 started on September 7th) - I started the tear down. Brian, Jay and another buddy of ours helped pull the motor and eagerly took off the front head...and this is what we saw:

DSCF0327.jpg


1,3 & 5 had all chipped at almost exactly the same 1 o'clock position. Weird.

So...we dropped the pan...it got uglier...

Pan...some holes belong...others...well, not so much...
DSCF0331.jpg


Like a great big oil pan shaped pinata...yayyy!!! :(

DSCF0329.jpg


We continued with the tear down and after pulling all of the pistons out...something...was amiss...to say the least.

DSCF0322.jpg


First time I ever got the skirt off of something and wasn't happy. :th_jester:

The truly amazing thing was - not a single knick on any cylinder wall. I'm still amazed by that to this day.

Fast forward to August 20th, 2007...BGPM was just a shade over 2 weeks away. I'd sent the heads out to be resurfaced, fluxed, valve job, new seals as well as having the crank polished. In the meantime, I'd made some cosmetic changes...see final pic.


August 27, 2007 - picked up heads and crank - also went and bought new bearings.

August 29, 2007 - Brian and I both wanted to personally car bomb O'Reilly. Long story short - I happened to be the lucky guy to find out that there was a packaging error in the bearings - the rear bearing in the box (I looked at all of that they had in stock - at 2 stores) was not even for the L67....nice. Thank you Federal Mogul.
Ordered Clevites from ZZP - which I should have done in the first place when I bought the gasket set. Live and learn...

August 31, 2007 - Brian and I worked until about 6 AM assembling. Only to find out that ZZP mispackaged the gasket set - and I only got 1 set of head gaskets. Yeah, that just happened. Called - second gasket shipped out overnight.

September 3 and 4, 2007 - So...lets recap - motor...*poof*, bearings - steaming mess, head gaskets - likewise...got it? It's not over...
I got home from work - got the 2nd head gasket and proceeded to begin bolting them down. Before you ask - YES - I went through about a hundred Qtips cleaning out the bolt holes. I got the first 3 or 4 bolts torqued down fine...the next...oh...ALL of them - all stripped. So - poof, bearings, head gasket, now head bolts = Swash in fetal position. I called my guy at the performance shop I use and he suggested to just use Heli-coils. Sweet - place 20 mins. from me has them. Got home - and got all of the holes drilled out - until the last one - when (you didn't think THIS was going to go smoothly, did you?) just as the bit bottomed out - it snapped off and fell inside the wall of the block. Yeah. That too, just happened. As a sidenote - I will always be a Ridgid tool guy - because their 18v cordless drills can take a hell of a beating.
This one wasn't really a big deal - 5 minutes of fishing with telescoping magnet and I got it out. Brian came by later and we got all of the coils inserted and all of the studs - (obviously had to switch)- torqued down. Woo hoo!!! So it's now about 11 PM or so I think and we hooked, hoisted and lowered the motor back in - and that all went smooooooooth. Started reassembling all the "stuff", and I went to grab the new TC bolts, when I noticed something sitting on the workbench...that really...REALLY didn't belong there.

I'd forgotten to put the cam bolt in. That's right kids - cam bolt. It was then what Brian likes to call - Swash's F*ck It Hour. I was done - I was beaten, defeated - and I had done it to myself. Lack of sleep - in way too big of a damn hurry had caused this completely asinine mistake.

But alas - Brian said - "No, we're getting this done." And 45 minutes later - cradle dropped, cover off, bolt in, cover on, cradle up - done. The guy is a f*cking animal. It is now about 4 AM..."Brian, go home." I stayed up a bit later and did a few things more.

September 5, 2007 - T-minus 2 days until Branson...
7 PM - Finished buttoning up the motor, ran through double checks - again - and fired it up. Uhh...that aint right. Brian and I just look at each other with this - "oh poop" look. It was out of time. For future reference - firing sequence on an L67 is 1-6-5-4-3-2 NOT 1-3-5-6-4-2 :D Fixed that little issue and she fired right up. SEG's all around at this point.

September 6, 2007 - Branson Eve
Now - we are here:

DSCF0320-1.jpg


Took it to the muffler shop - got my DP welded up and hit the road the next morning. "Broke it in" on the caravan down to Branson - and even gave the Bastard a bit of a surprise. :cool:

Couldn't, no, wouldn't have been done without Brian. Period.

All that - and then I sold it to Jay (ABRASV), and downgraded to the GTO. LOL.

-Swash
 
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or people could just not run their car when its possible they could blow something up?
 
Re: BLUEGTP91's BUILD!!

Swash said:
Not nosey at all man. I was driving "briskly" one day - merely matching (and beating) the similar "brisk" pace of an S4 - when she just lost power - total compression dump. Started running rough - SES, pulled the codes - and...

plug2.jpg
(not actually my plug - but same problem)

That was April 11th 2007. I drove it for a while after that, until it got so bad I didn't want to risk total bottom end loss. So...August 2nd (BGPM '07 started on September 7th) - I started the tear down. Brian, Jay and another buddy of ours helped pull the motor and eagerly took off the front head...and this is what we saw:

DSCF0327.jpg


1,3 & 5 had all chipped at almost exactly the same 1 o'clock position. Weird.

So...we dropped the pan...it got uglier...

Pan...some holes belong...others...well, not so much...
DSCF0331.jpg


Like a great big oil pan shaped pinata...yayyy!!! :(

DSCF0329.jpg


We continued with the tear down and after pulling all of the pistons out...something...was amiss...to say the least.

DSCF0322.jpg


First time I ever got the skirt off of something and wasn't happy. :th_jester:

The truly amazing thing was - not a single knick on any cylinder wall. I'm still amazed by that to this day.

Fast forward to August 20th, 2007...BGPM was just a shade over 2 weeks away. I'd sent the heads out to be resurfaced, fluxed, valve job, new seals as well as having the crank polished. In the meantime, I'd made some cosmetic changes...see final pic.


August 27, 2007 - picked up heads and crank - also went and bought new bearings.

August 29, 2007 - Brian and I both wanted to personally car bomb O'Reilly. Long story short - I happened to be the lucky guy to find out that there was a packaging error in the bearings - the rear bearing in the box (I looked at all of that they had in stock - at 2 stores) was not even for the L67....nice. Thank you Federal Mogul.
Ordered Clevites from ZZP - which I should have done in the first place when I bought the gasket set. Live and learn...

August 31, 2007 - Brian and I worked until about 6 AM assembling. Only to find out that ZZP mispackaged the gasket set - and I only got 1 set of head gaskets. Yeah, that just happened. Called - second gasket shipped out overnight.

September 3 and 4, 2007 - So...lets recap - motor...*poof*, bearings - steaming mess, head gaskets - likewise...got it? It's not over...
I got home from work - got the 2nd head gasket and proceeded to begin bolting them down. Before you ask - YES - I went through about a hundred Qtips cleaning out the bolt holes. I got the first 3 or 4 bolts torqued down fine...the next...oh...ALL of them - all stripped. So - poof, bearings, head gasket, now head bolts = Swash in fetal position. I called my guy at the performance shop I use and he suggested to just use Heli-coils. Sweet - place 20 mins. from me has them. Got home - and got all of the holes drilled out - until the last one - when (you didn't think THIS was going to go smoothly, did you?) just as the bit bottomed out - it snapped off and fell inside the wall of the block. Yeah. That too, just happened. As a sidenote - I will always be a Ridgid tool guy - because their 18v cordless drills can take a hell of a beating.
This one wasn't really a big deal - 5 minutes of fishing with telescoping magnet and I got it out. Brian came by later and we got all of the coils inserted and all of the studs - (obviously had to switch)- torqued down. Woo hoo!!! So it's now about 11 PM or so I think and we hooked, hoisted and lowered the motor back in - and that all went smooooooooth. Started reassembling all the "stuff", and I went to grab the new TC bolts, when I noticed something sitting on the workbench...that really...REALLY didn't belong there.

I'd forgotten to put the cam bolt in. That's right kids - cam bolt. It was then what Brian likes to call - Swash's F*ck It Hour. I was done - I was beaten, defeated - and I had done it to myself. Lack of sleep - in way too big of a damn hurry had caused this completely asinine mistake.

But alas - Brian said - "No, we're getting this done." And 45 minutes later - cradle dropped, cover off, bolt in, cover on, cradle up - done. The guy is a f*cking animal. It is now about 4 AM..."Brian, go home." I stayed up a bit later and did a few things more.

September 5, 2007 - T-minus 2 days until Branson...
7 PM - Finished buttoning up the motor, ran through double checks - again - and fired it up. Uhh...that aint right. Brian and I just look at each other with this - "oh poop" look. It was out of time. For future reference - firing sequence on an L67 is 1-6-5-4-3-2 NOT 1-3-5-6-4-2 :D Fixed that little issue and she fired right up. SEG's all around at this point.

September 6, 2007 - Branson Eve
Now - we are here:

DSCF0320-1.jpg


Took it to the muffler shop - got my DP welded up and hit the road the next morning. "Broke it in" on the caravan down to Branson - and even gave the Bastard a bit of a surprise. :cool:

Couldn't, no, wouldn't have been done without Brian. Period.

All that - and then I sold it to Jay (ABRASV), and downgraded to the GTO. LOL.

-Swash
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All I can say is WOW. Great story Swash! I didn't know someone could go through so much hell, especially in one night. Best part about the story, you pulled it off and made it to Branson!

Brian is the man! He needs to move over here incase I can't do something, I know he can!
 


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i know, mine would have never moved since i got it. :p

but people have to realize that they cant just beat the crap out of their car when its knocking and expect it to not go away. its just stupid the reasons why people blow their cars up.
 
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Well i see how if you know about it and do nothing, but for the people who didnt know any better and it blew up and then learned from their mistakes, thats different.
 
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So what the deal nicky. I didnt get a call, and your not updating us. What gives dude. I'm workin on mine. did you give up already. your not gonna get to go to branson sittin on your ass.
 
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i hope he bought a different cam or at least some rockers to put with that XP. little cams are for slow people.
 
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