Aluminum Oil Pan

[ls1camino]

Can anyone tell me what car this oil pan and motor mount bracket are off of?

 

[BillBoost37]

2004 GP or a Lucerne with the 3800. Key to that pan is getting that little black bracket with it. If you get a lucerne..there is no bracket so it's part number 10345562 bracket eng mt

I'm laughing at your pics.

 

[Explicit_Spade]

Is there a number of any kind on the pan?

Edit: Bill beat me to it. Looks like the pan on my 05 GP. The bolt is right against the tranny pan in that thing for whatever reason. My 04 oil pan is like the 97-03 pans with the bolt on the bottom.

 

[BillBoost37]

Spade you confuse me man.

I laughed at the pics..cause that's my pan, shelf, bench and kitty litter bucket.

 

[ls1camino]

I found a 04 Grand Prix at the junkyard and it had a steel pan...maybe it was an early model and left over from the previous generation.

I laughed at the pics..cause that's my pan, shelf, bench and kitty litter bucket.

I know, but you confused me when we were texting back and forth a few weeks ago, so I decided to post here.

 

[ls1camino]

What's the part number on the pan?

 

[ls1camino]

And I only need the pickup tube?

The windage tray is part of the pan gasket, right?

 

[Sven the Sexman]

There is no pan gasket on an aluminum pan. The windage tray is bolted inside the pan and you use sealant to install it.

 

[ls1camino]

There is no pan gasket on an aluminum pan. The windage tray is bolted inside the pan and you use sealant to install it.

Ok, so if I find a pan at a junkyard, I need to grab the pan, the mount bracket, the pickup tube, and the windage tray.

 

[ls1camino]

Unless someone here has one for sale

 

[BillBoost37]

Tray should be part of pan. Pan number..I dunno look up an 06 GP to be safe.

You need
Pan (part# 12597244_
Pickup tube (part# 24506437)
Mount bracket (part# 10345562)
Mount (old one should work)
Small tube of GM engine sealant (no gasket on these pans)

If you are a steel subframe most of them have an ear on the side of the bucket that you need to cut. The edge is like an ear that sticks out toward the motor and would hit the pan. The below subframe has the ear cut off.

 

[Sven the Sexman]

Tray should be part of pan. Pan number..I dunno look up an 06 GP to be safe.

You need
Pan (with tray)
Pickup tube
Mount bracket
Mount (old one should work)

If you are a steel subframe you need to cut an edge off the bucket that holds the mount. The edge is like an ear that sticks out toward the motor and would hit the pan. The below subframe has the ear cut off.

My subframe did not have the ear Bill is speaking of. This seems to depend on the year of the vehicle. I've seen it on many 99+ vehicles and randomly on the 97-98 vehicles. It's weird.

 

[ls1camino]

FYI...Pan Number is 12597244

 

[ls1camino]

Thanks a lot for the info guys. Now to start my search and hope I can get everything together before the weekend.

 

[BillBoost37]

Who has the pickup tube number? I'm putting all the info into Post 11 then using that as a how to

 

[ls1camino]

24506437

Sources:
ENGINE ASM-3.8L V6 PART 4 OIL PUMP, PAN AND RELATED PARTS. Fits: Allure, Grand Prix, Lacrosse | Tonkin Online Parts

http://parts.nalleygmc.com/showAssembly.aspx?ukey_product=2574597&ukey_assembly=401271

 

[BillBoost37]

Cool, thanks.. everyone thing post 11 is worthy?

 

[SlowNA06]

Is an aluminum pan any better than a steel pan?

 

[Sandman]

Not really, mine scares me a little. Cast aluminum is a lot more brittle than stamped steel

 

[BillBoost37]

Aluminum is better depending on how you look at it.

When you want to change an oil pan gasket on steel, you have to raise the motor (without mangling the tinfoil steel they put on there), get the mount off, get the bracket off (no easy feat) then swap the pan gasket.

When you change the gasket on the aluminum pan, you use a block of wood and jack the pan up, pull the mount off with 3 easy to get at bolts and poof, the pan is ready to come off. This pan uses GM engine sealant instead of a gasket. Usually one and done.

You can jack the motor with the aluminum pan, steel you can't. It'll crumble like a bud can. it's less prone to leaking, it's structural, it'll never rust out.