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2015 lemons GTP

Wow, that looks pretty extensive. There are worse cars in lemons than that but the car being a uni-body all that adds stregth and stiffness. Looking at the last pic you can see where the trailing arm mounts is pretty rusted also. I would forego using it if the floor pans show severe rust also due to the roll cage needing to be mounted to them and a plate inbetween. If you don't have a stable foundation to begin with you'll have all kinds of problems later. Just my thought on it
 


I know it's highly unlikely that the car will roll at lemons but welding a cage to a ****ty foundation is a recipe for disaster. Plus I wouldn't wanna risk my driver's lives like that.
 
Looks like any other grand prix up here in minnesota.

Good ole rocker rust, it's a unibody so meh. If the main spots around the subframe and rear subframe/trailing arms are still solid with no holes, it will last a long while still.
 
How would be any different?

It doesnt matter if the car got wrecked on a track or got broadsided by a suburban on the streets. It's going to crumple the same way.

In fact you'd be adding strength by doing a simple cage. And it wouldnt matter if you did it to a car with less rust or not, it will do the same thing.
 
Fivefingerdeathpunch said:
How would be any different?

It doesnt matter if the car got wrecked on a track or got broadsided by a suburban on the streets. It's going to crumple the same way.

In fact you'd be adding strength by doing a simple cage. And it wouldnt matter if you did it to a car with less rust or not, it will do the same thing.
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because the rust compromises the integrity of the car, and also you can't weld onto rust.
 


It's a unibody, what don't you get??

And who is dumb enough to weld to rust?? Who would weld a cage to the outside of a vehicle?

You'd weld the cage inside the car.
 
No it's not, you are too stupid to see that.

The rocker panel is not a very large spot on the vehicle, the whole entire floor, roof and front and rear on the body are one part. The panel itself is super thin anyway hardly means a thing for strength.

How can rocker rust is anyway make it less safe or make weak enough that it matters. You'd have to have huge holes that went through the inner rockers and ate away the floor and B pillar to make you want to worry about anything. Aslong as the trailing arm mounting point on the body is solid, run it as is. Smack with a hammer and screw driver to be sure.

You weld a cage to the inside of car, making the whole vehicle twice as strong. You'd be retarded to just drop everything to waste money on something else.
 
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My cage builder wouldn't put a cage in the car. I'm not a cage builder. That is the information given to me. The strut rust doesn't help either.
 


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