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2011 RS Camaro

IAGXP said:
Camaros should never have gotten less than 8 cylinders, I would rather have a Mustang GT than a v6 Camaro, Coyote 302, yes please. Honestly GM hasn't impressed me with much in the last few years other than the ZR1, even the Camaro SS's are castrated off the line, even with tractions control and Stabilitrac off. The pickups have kind of been left behind, if I had $100,000 to spend on a truck and a car I would get a new Sportsman Ram and a new Mustang GT or a Challenger SRT8, possibly a Corvette. I have driven plenty of new Camaros and although they are nice cars I'm not impressed with what they are compaired to what they shoud be.
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2012 Chevy Camaro | Performance Cars | Chevrolet

ya thats pretty weak if you ask me...:th_lipssealed1:

the Challenger SRT8s are like any other dodge product out there... over rated...

the new mustang GTs are decent for what they are for sure (minus the millions of transmission failures)... but unless you look at something like the Cobra Jet they really dont offer much else... I mean the "legendary" GT500 can barely do better than my grand prix in a quarter... and the Corvette Z06 (ya, didn even have to go to the ZR1 for this) out performs any of the new mustang line up by far...

to each their own though...
 


gtpsleeper said:
2012 Chevy Camaro | Performance Cars | Chevrolet

ya thats pretty weak if you ask me...:th_lipssealed1:

the Challenger SRT8s are like any other dodge product out there... over rated...

the new mustang GTs are decent for what they are for sure (minus the millions of transmission failures)... but unless you look at something like the Cobra Jet they really dont offer much else... I mean the "legendary" GT500 can barely do better than my grand prix in a quarter... and the Corvette Z06 (ya, didn even have to go to the ZR1 for this) out performs any of the new mustang line up by far...

to each their own though...
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Let me start out by saying that I'm not trying to come at you with some kind of Ford > Chevy attitude, because I don't believe that for a second.

"but unless you look at something like the Cobra Jet they really dont offer much else"

What does this^ mean? They don't offer much else...are you talking about product line or aftermarket support? Product line wise, well they have the V6, GT, boss, gt500, super snake....I think they have more then enough. The mustang has always had a huge aftermarket following, and the new line up is no different. I'll spare you videos/articles showing bolt on 5.0's in the 11's, as I'm sure you don't give a damn. But come on, really?


Also, why are you comparing the GT500 to the Z06? I'd take a Z06 over just about any mustang anyday...but the two cars aren't even in the same class. Compare it to the Camaro...for the longest time, that was more then enough for the GM faithfull. What changed? The msrp on the 12 GT500 starts just shy of 49K. The 12 Z06...75K. No arguements here which is the better car obviously, but that's like saying your car is crap because the G8 GXP is soooo much better. How much would a GXP run you? About 25K more then what your car is worth? Fair to compare...I think not.

As Ford continues to push the mustangs, so chevy will continue to push the camaro. There is a line that chevy can't cross with the camaro though, and that line is the corvette. Just because the new mustangs are out performing the new camaros, both v8 and v6 versions, that doesn't mean that Ford is now aiming for the corvette. Ford doesn't really have anything to compete with the corvette lineup, and the Ford GT is more or less a novelty in comparision.


The rivalry has always been mustang vs camaro...and that's how it should stay. To have to bring the Corvette into it, shows weakness from the camaro. You guys know how that goes, remember, ya'll like to say "Ford had to use a supercharger to keep up"...oh wait...
 
Slowpoke said:
Lulz....



Fanboys are funny.
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we understand...:th_winking:
 
Slowpoke said:
Let me start out by saying that I'm not trying to come at you with some kind of Ford > Chevy attitude, because I don't believe that for a second.

"but unless you look at something like the Cobra Jet they really dont offer much else"

What does this^ mean? They don't offer much else...are you talking about product line or aftermarket support? Product line wise, well they have the V6, GT, boss, gt500, super snake....I think they have more then enough. The mustang has always had a huge aftermarket following, and the new line up is no different. I'll spare you videos/articles showing bolt on 5.0's in the 11's, as I'm sure you don't give a damn. But come on, really?


Also, why are you comparing the GT500 to the Z06? I'd take a Z06 over just about any mustang anyday...but the two cars aren't even in the same class. Compare it to the Camaro...for the longest time, that was more then enough for the GM faithfull. What changed? The msrp on the 12 GT500 starts just shy of 49K. The 12 Z06...75K. No arguements here which is the better car obviously, but that's like saying your car is crap because the G8 GXP is soooo much better. How much would a GXP run you? About 25K more then what your car is worth? Fair to compare...I think not.

As Ford continues to push the mustangs, so chevy will continue to push the camaro. There is a line that chevy can't cross with the camaro though, and that line is the corvette. Just because the new mustangs are out performing the new camaros, both v8 and v6 versions, that doesn't mean that Ford is now aiming for the corvette. Ford doesn't really have anything to compete with the corvette lineup, and the Ford GT is more or less a novelty in comparision.


The rivalry has always been mustang vs camaro...and that's how it should stay. To have to bring the Corvette into it, shows weakness from the camaro. You guys know how that goes, remember, ya'll like to say "Ford had to use a supercharger to keep up"...oh wait...
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OK....

I realize there are different editions/features of the Mustang... I wasn saying selection was limited, I was referring to the weak numbers of some of the upper models from the factory not being very impressive as a counter argument to Chevy not doing anything impressive...

Of course there are bolt on Mustangs hitting the 11s... there always have been and there always will be because how easy it is to modify with the Mustangs cuz its all relatively the same sh!t year after year and after market is obviously gonna be stronger... Everyone and their mom has an 11 sec mustang now days... and thats fine...

I compared the ZO6 to the GT500 cuz Car&Driver (or maybe Motortrend) did along with the new GTRs as a 3 way comparison...? I threw my car in there as a for instance... not a literal comparison...

Classically, yes, its always been about Camaro and Mustang... and yes CURRENTLY the mustang outperforms the newer Camaro models (let me emphasize currently... that news Zl1 isn gonna be easy to compete with...) but if you think about it, it wouldnt be that hard for GM to throw some Corvette stuff into the Camaro and be able to overtake the Mustang (even though thats marketing suicide)...

Bringing the Corvette into the argument doesn really make the Camaro look weaker it just adds to the point that Chevys super car IS NOT the Camaro but instead is the vette... and Fords is there Mustangs... which youve admitted Corvette > Mustang...

Id rather do this than than be arguing with some honda guy though... lol
 
Slowpoke said:
Lulz....



Fanboys are funny.
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I don't know what "Lulz..." is, but fanboy? Interesting concept - a person who loves something without question. I like it. I'm the same with my wife. I prefer the term allegiance, though, or perhaps loyal. Maybe even devoted. Those are all good adjectives and I'm fine with them.
 


SnowDrift said:
I don't know what "Lulz..." is, but fanboy? Interesting concept - a person who loves something without question. I like it. I'm the same with my wife. I prefer the term allegiance, though, or perhaps loyal. Maybe even devoted. Those are all good adjectives and I'm fine with them.
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LULZ = Funner than LOL...or a...sarcastic laugh. Urban Dictionary, bruh.

02 WS6 TA said:
New Camaros suck.
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5th Gen owners are my favorite people on the face of the planet besides Slowpoke's.
 
i met this old guy once....he had a brand spankin new camaro ss. he spoke of it as though it was the best thing ever. the whole time i was wondering why he just didnt buy a corvette. then he would have just had the best.
 




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