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2000 GTP: Still Alive! New Trans?

Re: 2000 GTP: TB results are in! Ported TB FTW!

That thing is beautiful. I wouldn't mind doing something similar to that to my truck. I dunno how it's look with this brick nose, though. This won't be 4x4, but maybe we can still take it camping at whatnot. I have extra clutches in the rear end so it's basically a locker, lol. VB came in today, but after I went to work, so I'll have pics tomorrow.
 


Re: 2000 GTP: TB results are in! Ported TB FTW!

That thing is beautiful. I wouldn't mind doing something similar to that to my truck. I dunno how it's look with this brick nose, though. This won't be 4x4, but maybe we can still take it camping at whatnot. I have extra clutches in the rear end so it's basically a locker, lol. VB came in today, but after I went to work, so I'll have pics tomorrow.

I bet you could whip up a cooler grille for it or something, for improved brick nose. I'm jelly, miss a truck. You guys can have tons of fun in it as long as it just does trucky stuff!
 
Re: 2000 GTP: TB results are in! Ported TB FTW!

Sigh, my luck strikes again. I got the VB 2 days ago and instantly saw 2 problems. There's corrosion on the VB's Body (not valves) and there is no adjustment for the shift point at WOT (said to be standard on this VB). I e-mailed Dan (silverfox) last night with pics, but have yet to hear back. I've read NOTHING but fantastic reviews about this guy, so I'm hoping he lives up to the hype. Here's a pic of the VB:


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Re: 2000 GTP: TB results are in! Ported TB FTW!

Aw thats just the adventure in your venture. You reach for the stars going into transmissions like you do. I just R&I and leave the rest to guys who do that daily. And that eats my lunch of course. Maybe the VB guy can clear things up for ya. I hope so.
 
Re: 2000 GTP: TB results are in! Ported TB FTW!

Heard back from the guy, Turns out it does have the feature, the instructions were in with the packing slip. Also, it's not corrosion, it's paint from the assembly plat to identify which VB went where. That would explain why it was being such a PITA to clean off.
 
Re: 2000 GTP: TB results are in! Ported TB FTW!

Coolio. The older I get, the safer it is to assume that my own ignorance or assumptions are to blame for whatever struggle I'm in. Fair warning, younger friend. ;) Its gets to be like throwing away everything you know every day. Anyone who can deal fluently with hop-up parts and just knows all these things like that... deserves a boatlad of respect. I watch it happen all week every week and the stress of sorting out questions like that is a big part of a builder's job. It wears them down mentally and is constant. I couldn't take it. Hope she churps second just a little at part throttle when you're done (if you go for that). Always enjoyed churp when I had it but the TH400 is so weary now.

Yknow if you had even one of those $100 welders, you could probably fit those long tubes somehow. BTW the boobatoon serves me well. I wail on it all the way across town if I'm mad and it never hurts itself, lol. Just what I needed. The fan run-on lets me smell any leaks as I walk around the front of the car into the house :th_thumb-up:
 


Re: 2000 GTP: TB results are in! Ported TB FTW!

Lol, good to hear, but it's just a DHP 1.5 BIN, I didn't do much if anything to it.

I have the new head unit installed, and so far, I'm happy with it. I need to get an SWI-RC for the steering wheel controls to work, but other than that, I think I'm done. It's VERY fast, Music is playing 3 seconds after I start the car (used to be 37 seconds), touchscreen is bigger and MUCH more responsive\easy to use, and it sounds a LOT better than my old head unit. I'm still a firm believer that there was something wrong with the preout portion of my old AN 21 U, I just worked around it. It is a LOT bigger, so I have to completely reshape the dash bezel...by nearly 1\2". Lots of build up JB Kwik (it's what I had, and it works, lol) and sanding, but it's just about there. I'm filling some bubbles and smoothing out some notches I ground down for the "Driver" and "Passenger" labels on the HVAC. I had to drop the entire HVAC down about 1\4 inch or so. If I had this to do over again I'd probably move the HVAC to the top and the Head Unit to the bottom, the screen is bigger, but it's tough to see all the way to the top with the vents right above it (from the driver's point of view). I did a LOT of sanding under the vents and dropped lowered everything a bit like a mentioned and it's acceptable, I think. Anyways, here's a few progress pics, and a quick video:

Before I did the first test install:
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The first test install:
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A lot more work needed...how it sets now:
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How it looked last time...
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Re: 2000 GTP: TB results are in! Ported TB FTW!

I'm sorry booba but I just cant picture the HVAC on top of the HU in our cars, It would bug me to my grave. Looking good though cant wait to see the finished product.
 
Re: 2000 GTP: TB results are in! Ported TB FTW!

Moving along nicely, I have to make the little notches bigger and smooth out the HU corners a bit. Then I'll sand it all with 400 grit and paint it again. Thoughts?
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Re: 2000 GTP: TB results are in! Ported TB FTW!

Make a flush-fit door over the A/C head. Or extend the ashtray lid to be that. Wicked HU BTW. :th_thumb-up:
 


Re: 2000 GTP: TB results are in! Ported TB FTW!

Oh, also... I'd like to see the bezel hug the edge of the screen, covering the brand name and only leaving the control pod on the left sticking out past the bezel. Fiberglass. Just ideas!
 
Re: 2000 GTP: TB results are in! Ported TB FTW!

I've never used Fiberglass before, and I know what you mean, the "Joying" part is the only part I really don't like. It sucks because it's slanted (into the screen) so I'd have to rig up a shelf or something of the sort to cover it up. You are the pro when it comes to this stuff, so I'm all ears. I can get you all the pictures you want whenever you need it, lol. Thus far, this is nothing but a giant, sanded ball of JB kwik, lol.
 
Re: 2000 GTP: TB results are in! Ported TB FTW!

Well its probably not an important enough of an item to go learning fiberglass on. Picture double layering the front of the HU with plastic wrap or foil then gooping the backside of the bezel then jamming the HU into it. That would mold it to the face and you could trim it and finish gooping the front when dry. Just an untested idea. But for example when I needed the 73 TA flares to have no gap to the body, I got them as close as I could then gooped the edges with bondo and bolted them to taped fenders while wet. Like bedding a rifle stock.
 
Re: 2000 GTP: TB results are in! Ported TB FTW!

I guess we'll see how this finished product comes out, and go from there. I have pipe dreams that we meet up some day and you'll see the rust and other body type work I want to get done and instantly be able to teach me everything I'd need to know to be confident in that type of repair, lol. Oh yea, rockers haven't had any work done to them at all...it's on the list after the truck is running, transmission is done, and you guess it, an Arizona trip.

Wow, Android head unit, building a transmission for the car, and "plans" for an Arizona trip. Welcome to 3 years ago, haha. Seriously though, we'll go out there this year, even if I have to chance it on my current transmission. Grandpa's gone, and I don't know if Grandma will make it another year. The trip is happening.

Anyways, over the next week or so the bezel will be getting finished up, hopefully at least. SWI-RC (for the steering wheel controls on the new head unit) should get here mid next week, so it'll get installed with the bezel, hopefully. Once this project is done, the car worked on until the truck is up and running. I have the VB, trans pan, and Walmart has the batteries in stock (lol). I have to finish isolating the batteries from one another and some other wiring things to finish up, then the real wrenching will begin. I'm trading my old head unit (the AN-21 U for the car) for a set of Hedman Long tube headers for the truck, which I need to mock up and make sure that they'll fit the truck AND clear the weird spark plug angle of the GT40P heads I have. If they fit, it'll open the budget up a bit more and I can probably pick up some Scorpion 1.7 Roller rockers for it from Summit. Either way I'm getting some new valve springs for the heads, so I'd prefer to install the rockers at the same time, but who knows.

A lot of all this depends on the weather and how much work I have. I work this Saturday, so 1 day off sucks, lol. Enough rambling, I hope to have more progress pics tomorrow night!
 
Re: 2000 GTP: TB results are in! Ported TB FTW!

Well between work and weather I didn't get much done on the car. I did get the shed all cleaned out, so that'll help with both the car and truck, lol. The SWI-RC came in, got installed, and halfway worked for a bit then just stopped working. When it halfway worked, it would see the same resistance for 2 buttons (AKA 2 buttons would do the same thing). While trying to fix it, the SWI-RC bit the dust.

I decided to get nerdy with it like I always do, and pulled up the schematic to see what I couldn't figure out. I instantly saw a VERY simple fix, as well as felt like a moron for buying an SWI-RC in the first place. Most of your aftermarket radios use a resistance to ground to detect the various steering wheel buttons. For example, 5 ohm=Volume +, 10 Ohm=Volume -, 15 Ohm=Track +, etc. Our cars do this from the factory, but instead of using ground as a reference, they use +12v. This made it a VERY easy fix. Pull the fuse, cut the wire leading from the fuse to the steering wheel controls (the reference wire), and ground the side of the wire leading to the steering wheel controls. I test it, and boom worked like a charm the first time. As a permanent type of install, I traced the wire back to under the steering column (dark grey silicon loom run along side the ignition harness, with a small black connector that clips to the dash right by the center console) cut it, and grounded it to a steering column bolt. I don't have a pic of the install, but I did work up this schematic a bit.

 


Re: 2000 GTP: TB results are in! Ported TB FTW!

Heh wow. So the last few weeks have been quite the blur. It's all to get the car ready for driving to\from AZ.

I started out chasing a suspension clunk, when the rack is extended all the way, there's a clunk. I've changed the rack (again), both axles, outer tie rods (again, but upgraded to Moog), and Ball Joints (also upgraded to Moog). After yesterday, I've come to the determination that it's the rack again. Literally everything is Moog up front, other than the sway bar bushings, which are energy suspension (poly). With it up in the air I can hear\feel the clunk from the rack. It'll get changed (3rd time) after we get back. Onward to the cluster f*ck of the last week.

I went to change out my header gaskets due to a leak (3 of them to be exact), and this happened. Directly next to the coil bracket.

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So off came the heads. Just to set the scene, I have been working 66-72 hours a week, 70 hours this particular week. I had just got off a 12 hour shift at 6AM, I woke up at 4:30PM the night (Friday) before. I pulled the heads, was going to lap the valves on my spare heads, but when I began to question my lapping abilities (never done it before) a deal popped up on FB for a fresh set of L67 heads. They have a 5 angle valve job, freshly milled, LS6 springs, LS retainers, new locks, new freeze plugs, some light polish work, and a full head gasket set. I ended up using my own Felpro gaskets, but I at least have spares for the future (along with 4 extra heads, lol). These were in Dexter, MO, which is a little over 3 hours away. We left my house at 9:15PM Saturday night, and got back to my house at 4:30AM...still hadn't been to sleep since 4:30PM Friday. Passed out, woke up 5 hours later, put flip flops on to go out and get something (NOT work), didn't see the old head setting in the yard, and kicked it. Skinned the SH*T out of my toe (Janelle was cutting off 1\8" thick pieces of skin). I was not a happy camper that weekend. Anyways, heads!

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So anyways, I put it all back together, ended up getting it done on Tuesday. Just in time for me to pass out for work (it was 2PM, I had to wake up for work at 6:30PM). It idled rough had some valve noise (I figured it was the fact that the top end was dry, even though I ran it for 20 seconds with the ICM disconnected) and leaked coolant. "Well ****," I said, then went to bed. That night my buddy came to pick me up and I started it to show him, it clattered again. Hmpf, f*ck off, car.

The next morning we fixed the coolant leaks and resealed the SC (I thought it was a vacuum leak, I still think it was). Still ran rough, still had valve noise on start up. A mechanic at work had told me that sometimes roller lifters need to be DRIVEN to prime, so I took her on a trip. It drove great, no noise, and honestly felt great! I slowly rolled into WOT (with buddy watching misfires, KR, etc.) and she pulled great. Got home, and valve noise while running, f*ck off, car.

Zoom ahead to this past Saturday at 8 AM (got off at 6AM from a 12 hour shift, only 64 hours last week). I was able to determine that the noise was from the rear bank, so I tore it down and checked it all out. Everything looked totally fine until I brought the push rods inside and saw this:

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Apparently, I lucked out and got L67 heads that had sloppy casting, causing the push rods to rub them. I bought 2 new rods, marked all six with a paint pen and put it all back together with the VC off, alternator\belts off, etc. so I can see it work, and pull it all back apart to see where I needed to add some clearance. Low and behold, no noise at all. Not even on startup. It actually took 1:20 for oil to start coming out of the push rods, and once it did, I shut her down for 4 hours to check for bleed down. None happened at all, so I ran it (again), no noise at all, and smooth as silk idle. Here's a video of that:


Mind you, all of this was off the battery, no alternator. So, front battery=dead. So I put the car all back together, and unbeknownst to me, the 1 wire that turns the alternator on pushed out of the connector (didn't physically fall out, but wasn't making a connection). So I ran the car for about 10-15 min while I bled the coolant system and whatnot, then drove it for about 8-10 miles (which it ran GREAT doing so). Got back to the house, and the battery light came on. I got out to start investigating and saw 9v on the multimeter. Ruh Roh, shut it off, found the connector problem, fixed it, and now both batteries are DEAD. Won't even honk the horn anymore. So I jump started it with my buddies car. Apparently, charging 2 850CCA batteries that are DEAD was a bit much to ask of the alternator, so it fried my bridge rectifier. I literally tore everything off that I had just pulled off, minus the VC. Rebuilt the alternator with a new bridge rectifier, and FINALLY all is well.
 
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Re: 2000 GTP: TB results are in! Ported TB FTW!

Whew. Here's the video of it running now, I've lost 4.5* of KR, and I set the camera on the engine while it's running in the video. You can hear the injectors, that's about it.

 
Re: 2000 GTP: TB results are in! Ported TB FTW!

Shoulda shot me a message.

Could have had that thing up and running in a day with all the extra stuff we've got lying around.
 
Re: 2000 GTP: TB results are in! Ported TB FTW!

No kidding, never even crossed my mind. Of course, the whole Dexter trip was a decision made in 30 minutes, lol. It literally popped up on FB, my buddy chipped in some $ for other parts he's going to get when I get the new trans done, and he paid for gas\drove to Dexter. Whenever I do get back I'll get ahold of you though. I'm sure there's something I might need. Not sure I've ever been up in your neck of the woods, I think it's 4-5 hours away or so.
 
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