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Is there carbon fiber options for GP's?

For the modifications that you want done to the car, the cost is going to be exponentially higher than just buying a different car.

I say just keep it stock with maybe a few minor mods.

If you are wanting to risk your family's safety just to save some weight, please leave this forum.
 


He has a 2008 base model, the worst one to get for doing any kind of big engine mods because it can not be tuned. Your SOL.
 
Converting to rear wheel drive is definitely an option. But since it's already front wheel drive, I was thinking why not just see if I can do a 4 wheel drive option for this. The money is not an issue here. I'm looking to make a one of a kind car that can be passed down from generation to generation. I know my budget for this car will be spending probably around 20,000$ but will be well worth it when it's complete. I bought the car for 10,000$ with 50,000 miles on it. So after it's all said and done, investing 20,000 into it to make it a new, one of a kind car will be worth more than just buying a GTO or something like that.
 


Question I have yet to see; "Why aren't there more carbon fiber parts available for the Grand Prix?" Simple answer now. But, back in the day the Grand prix and many other Wbodies had a huge following. So...
 
ScoutSniper3D said:
. So after it's all said and done, investing 20,000 into it to make it a new, one of a kind car will be worth more than just buying a GTO or something like that.
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nah not really. project like that is basically yours to keep. you wont profit on it. youll lose money. and GM did do an awd GP. it was breaking all the time.
 
I bought the car about 4 months ago and began modifying it ASAP. I've thrown away a lot of money by not having a plan and just getting stuff that I thought I wanted when really I was just running into a dead end. That's why I'm branching out now and trying to learn from you guys so I don't make the same mistakes again.
 
A lot of our mistakes is putting so much money into modding resulting in a fwd boat that can barely make it into the 12s and have the constant chip on our shoulders that the transmission will grenade. Plus more you mod more unreliable it seems to get. Don't get me wrong I love my Grand Prix and don't regret what I've done to it over the last few years but mainly thts because I'm keeping it for awhile and still has modern day acces like a lot of cars these day and can still keep up and is spacious. Now putting 20k into one Idk about that. The biggest thing I see is guys join the forums an immediately get in over their heads and all these crazy ideas flow through their mind and they try to justify the cost by saying how much they love their car and that they want something different and a lot of them really would not have the money/skills to pull that kind of work off and it ends up being a lost cause. I don't want to discourage you but really do some thinking.
 
ScoutSniper3D said:
I bought the car about 4 months ago and began modifying it ASAP. I've thrown away a lot of money by not having a plan and just getting stuff that I thought I wanted when really I was just running into a dead end. That's why I'm branching out now and trying to learn from you guys so I don't make the same mistakes again.
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Here we go.

$5000 for an engine making around 500 HP.
$3000 for a transmission that can handle that power.
$2000 for suspension that could keep the thing on the road.
$1000 for brakes safe enough to make it stop.
$5000 for making it look good.

Plus down time, tools, supplys, gas, insurance, and speeding tickets.
 


$5000 to make an engine make 500hp LOL you're on crack. It can be done for $1500, you just have to shop around.
 
Come to Michigan, the land of 10 second Grand Prixs. They're all over. It's called BUILD YOUR OWN, don't buy a turbo kit a company sells, price **** out, find your own turbo, find your own parts, piece it together yourself, thats how you get it cheap.
 


Base price for ZZP Z3 turbo kit, $2464.99
Extra options for 04+, $2629.99
ZZP A2A intercooler kit, $3,619.98
ZZP Boost Controller, $3,684.98
Finding a way to tune an 08', $????.??
 
Not sure who you are referring too. Building your own kit still requires an investment of time, tools, and experience. Building your own and buying a kit would still come out the same. On top of that, buying a kit new is the upper limit on how much you would possibly have to spend. Like I said, the most you would have to spend on an engine to get it to 500 hp is around $5000. If you are spending any more there is something wrong, if you spend any less then good for you. My point still stands.
 
Your point makes no sense, you say parting the kit yourself still costs the same as buying a kit, you sir ARE WRONG. MY point still stands.

All the turbo cars in the area here all have Intercooler kits they purchased off ebay with piping for $200, ZZP's intercooler kit is $1000, right there is $800 in savings alone. I could go all day on prices with you.
 
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