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Intercooling

what do you mean a full sized intercooler? i thoguht the only intercooler i cuold get was one that is inbetween he intake manifold and the supercharger, is there any other types for a supercharger?
 


GP_Kid18 said:
what do you mean a full sized intercooler? i thoguht the only intercooler i cuold get was one that is inbetween he intake manifold and the supercharger, is there any other types for a supercharger?
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There are varying thickness intercoolers. The SS intercooler is the "short stack". They're cheaper, but not as effective. Also, there might be clearance issues with thicker intercoolers. I'm not all that familiar with them.
 
oh ok :) i know what what you are talking about, i thought he was talking about a different type like a front mount, but thats only for turbos. :) but the really thick ones are like 1200 :( thats more than headers
 
02BlueGT said:
The intercooler would be a huge amount of cash and time, It is a supporting mod for a smaller pulley, but without other mods (like the smaller pulley) you are spending lots of money to stay at the same power level..... and the smaller pulleys get the same gas mileage(if you drive the same) if not better with a good tune
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Exactly. Pulleys cost 50 bucks. If he can spend 1000 im sure he can come up with the 50 at some point in time.
 


the SSIC is a piss poor IC in my opinion. If you don't want to spend the money to get a good full sized IC or wait for a used one don't get one at all. Headers will be a much better choice.

I'm talking from experiance here, I had a SS on my other GTP. It didn't cool worth a ****. I honestly think a ****ing S/C spacer would of taken away heat better than that damn thing. It was a true disappointment to me. Then again, comparing to the IC on my GTP, it made the SS its ***** period. The S/C was always heat soaked, the lines or the case never seemed to be cool, even after a long steady drive. Upgrading to the full sized core changed that immediatly! Cooler case, noticeably cool lines, and able to drop a full pulley size instantly KR free. Thats my experiance with it.

I'll say it again, Get a Full Sized IC or go home, period. Don't half ass the intercooling aspect, do it right the first time or don't do it at all...
 
TDCRacing said:
If your worried about gas prices or the amount of gas you use stop modding...better yet...don't start.
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I dont mean to be rude but what are you talking about? modding your car with things like a cold air intake, headers and catback exhaust gives you better gas mileage, since my cat back system I have gotten 2.7 more MPG. Alos whats the point of buyng a sports car if your not gonna mod it and make it truly yours. you sound like a person that drives a V-6 convertible mustang just to say he has a mustang, but then you get smoked but a GTP :th_sign-pontiacs:
 
He's saying that if you can't afford gas or are going to whine about it, you shouldn't be stretching your wallet to pay for mods. Plus, what's the point of mods if you're not going to use them? Which means more fuel used.
 
I'm not whining about the gas cuz when i get into the really heavy mods like a cam and new heads, rockers all that really in dept stuff gas wont even matter, I'll have a pos 4 banger to drive around and I'll have my GTP for Friday night, but i would like to see what kind of parts i can add that wont negatively affect gas mileage, thats why i chose an intercooler, it would give me lots of power and it wouldn't kill my gas.
 


Most if not all the Modded GTP get better MPG's than the stock ones(when driven normally), you can get better mileage in a V8 than a I4 if you drive for efficiency (or beat on it in the case of the I4 getting low gas mileage)

If you mod the hell out of this car, and aren;t on it all the time your gas mileage will be similar, If you can't control your right foot, wait till you get the second car..... but double the PM if you have 2 cars, so slightly lower gas mileage may be cheaper than 2 cars, but whatever works for you is what you should do

~End Rant
 
GP_Kid18 said:
you sound like a person that drives a V-6 convertible mustang just to say he has a mustang, but then you get smoked but a GTP :th_sign-pontiacs:
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Actually just the opposite. I own a v6 pontiac and smoke 13 second cobra's.

And I own a v8 mustang not a v6 :th_thumbsup-wink:



Sabrewings has got what im talking about. And I also agree with you 100%Iron Indian. I never made the mistake of buying the ss but im glad i didnt.:th_biggrin2:
 
GP_Kid18 said:
thats why i chose an intercooler, it would give me lots of power and it wouldn't kill my gas.
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You will get worse gas miliage with an intercooler. Just like you get better gas miliage with a hot air intake than a cold air intake. Hot air = better fuel economy.
 
TDCRacing said:
Actually just the opposite. I own a v6 Pontiac and smoke 13 second cobra's.

And I own a v8 mustang not a v6 :th_thumbsup-wink:



Sabrewings has got what I'm talking about. And I also agree with you 100%Iron Indian. I never made the mistake of buying the SS but I'm glad i didn't.:th_biggrin2:
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sorry i had to say it, cuz my friend has a V-6 mustang and he always brags about it and says that he is going to do mods but he never will and he always said " I have a sweet mustang and you have some ****y Pontiac" well feed up with it i raced him and kicked his ass :):th_sign-Pontiac's:

also i have a question and i will make a new post but while i have your attention, i was messing around with my car the other day and i wanted to just take some stuff off and see how it works. well i had taken off all of the intake and i was going to remove the throttle body and some fluid shot out so i quickly tightened it back up. what was it that came out? the only thing i could think of is supercharger oil, but I'm not sure, the fluid was clear. any ideas? thanks :)
 
GP_Kid18 said:
well i had taken off all of the intake and i was going to remove the throttle body and some fluid shot out so i quickly tightened it back up. what was it that came out? the only thing i could think of is supercharger oil, but I'm not sure, the fluid was clear. any ideas? thanks :)
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Coolant.

You do realize that some things like gaskets can only be used once, right? So, when you get ready to take stuff apart, make sure you have new gaskets ready.
 


Sabrewings said:
Coolant.

You do realize that some things like gaskets can only be used once, right? So, when you get ready to take stuff apart, make sure you have new gaskets ready.
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Like he said. There is a coolant passage that goes through the throttle body. Another thing that I use and has worked very well for me is grey rtv. Not as noticable as the other colored RTV and works just as good if not better than a regular gasket ( on the throttle body and some other places ). I think the main reason why i started to use this was I was begining to take the throttle body off on a regular basis for mods ect. and the gaskets were getting expensive.


Thats funny about your friend. At least you showed him who's boss :D
 
so how do i take off the throttle body without lossing a bunch of coolent? or will only a little come out when i take it off?
and about the whole gasket thing, i never removed the throtle body i just losend it.
and thanks i am awear of RTV my friend and i used it when we put the heads back on his vett
 
Make sure the engine is cool and has been sitting a while. That way there's little to no pressure in the system. To be sure, you could take off the radiator cap once it has cooled down. You'll loose a little, but not much.
 
I loosened the bottom 2 nuts on the tb to try ZZP's heat shield and never thought it would hurt the gasket. A couple months ago we took off the tb, found it cracked and had a little dirt/dust around it. Used RTV for the new gasket...

A full size intercooler can be pieced together for $500-$600 bucks, just got to look.
 
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