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Too Slow, Time for a build (GEN V/N*/L32 Lim build)

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AmericanSoldier

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oh kids the time has come for some more ponies. ive been working hard/saving to get this pieced together and underway and the time is almost here! The plan is a gen v/n*/lq4 maf/3.5 sc pulley/modified l67 lim/ tune/nitto drag radials. shooting for 13.5 or better in the spring and i KNOW its gonna be easily attainable if i get the tune spot on.

what i have so far:

Gen V Supercharger
3.5 mps
s/c gasket
aluminum lim gasket
coolant elbows
injector o-rings
s/c oil

what i need:
longer s/c bolts
modified lim (which Bill is modifying for me as well as smoothing intake runners)
Northstar TB w/ lq4 (getting on black friday

The total build will be just under $1000 (before dyno tune)
tune and Nittos wil be after build is complete. looking at starting this RIGHT AFTER i get my n* soo after black friday. gonna hit it up in my bro in laws garage. prob gonna change fuel filter/plugs as well while im in there. Going to Performance Dyno in concord n.h for the tune. idk if ill use my 3/4 or 3.5 pulley..well see whats the better option. PICS TO UPLOAD IN A LITTLE BIT
 


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Gen V blower
UMI performance trailing arms
N* w/LQ4 MAF
GM axles
3.5 pulley
l67 oil cap
L32 Lim
all gaskets,sc pil, coolant elbows, injector orings etc.


QUESTION THOUGH...my tb adapter doesnt mate up with the TB itself, screws dont line up no matter how i configure it, last pic shows what i mean..am i dumb or is something wrong here?
 
current mods are :

~Red 2003 GTP ~

-Gen V Blower w/ 3.4 Mps
-Northstar TB w/LQ4 Maf
-L32 Lim
-1.95 YT Aluminum Roller Rockers
-Ls6 Valvesprings
-ZZP Powerlog
-Fbody Brakes drilled/slotted Rotors,SS Lines
-ZZP 3" Downpipe w/ Magnaflow Cat
-K&N Intake
-Magnaflow Catback
-Overkill Tune v4.2
-UMI Performance Trailing Arms
-ZZP Strut Tower Bar
-Poly Motor Mounts
-A-Pillar Pod w/Aeroforce Scangauge, Boost, Oil Pressure

-PB 13.8 @ 100 2.1 60ft (before Gen V/N*)
 
and hey be easy on me for how boring these mods might be to some of you guys..i just got back from Iraq recently so im excited and for a broke soldier..this is a big deal :)



Spartang you know what im saying brah! ;)
 
Gen V Blower-$342
L32 lim-$75
N* w/ lq4 maf-$180
s/c gasket,coolant elbows,sc oil,3.5 pulley,lim gasket, injector o rings-$190

all this ^ for $787. mind you, i got my N* brand new, all randoms new, pulley new so its cheaper if you sourced the parts in the for sale section over time..i just like new ****

extras i got for this build are :

new GM axles
UMI Performance Trailing Arms
 


got Bill sending me longer SC bolts b ut besides that the parts are allll in..AND i may go a lil further as to getting some sway bars or a Meziere ewp after XMAS since the wifey is getting me zzp gift certificates.

when am i doing the install? all dep on getting the new LQ4 maf tables uploaded on my pcm..trying to work on that getting done. contacting will from overkill to do this for me until i get funds together for dyno tune


no MA guys around to tune me :(
 
matt5112 said:
Why?

Should have bought a cam.
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cam/shpam, already have brand new 1.95 yella terra aluminum rockers with ls6 springs

time to work on weaker areas of the car

AND thats like asking why s/c when you can turbocharge when its better? its all based on opinion and how deep a persons pockets are..if i had the money ot would be a heads/cam/Intercooled whipple gtp already

if you have nothing useful to add/comment/help here then please stay out of my thread, please and thank you
 
Man, cams do work! Its not its bad all you got but, headers and cam ONLY will get u to 13.7s
Thats all I got and went 13.5 on all seasons
Gen III runing a 3.4 pulley
Stock everything besides headers, cam exhaust and intake
Next time do get a cam, trust.me, youll love it!!!
;)
 
At your mod/power level, a GenV isn't doing a whole lot for you over the GenIII. To take advantage of what the GenV does better, you'll need to do a cam at the very least.
 


SnowFlake said:
At your mod/power level, a GenV isn't doing a whole lot for you over the GenIII. To take advantage of what the GenV does better, you'll need to do a cam at the very least.
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false..the blower is overall more efficient, creates less heat and takes less power from the crankshaft at any given rpm over the gen 3

take a stock gtp with gen 3 put on a gen v and see a 15-20 whp increase ANY day of the week. hell the 04 and up were rated at 20 crank hp over the 97-03..and not because of a freeer flowing exhaust or intake..just the blower upgrade.

to say im not gonna make power over my gen 3 is very untrue..and with what mods i DO have is gonna help it shine even more

but thanks for reading, good day mate :th_thumb-up:
 
Looks like it will be a good build. You should get headers eventually! And always scan for knock, cuz you never know how much more there will be with the Gen V.
 
Hippo Machine said:
Looks like it will be a good build. You should get headers eventually! And always scan for knock, cuz you never know how much more there will be with the Gen V.
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ya kno, i HAD ssac autocrome headers brand new but i sold em..i couldnt differentiate them vs. the plog/downpipe..i just didnt see the power dif. being enough for the troubles
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will i prob get em eventually? prob


the tranny is the weakest link in this car now so gotta save up ofor my allowance for that now :)
 


AmericanSoldier said:
false..the blower is overall more efficient, creates less heat and takes less power from the crankshaft at any given rpm over the gen 3

take a stock gtp with gen 3 put on a gen v and see a 15-20 whp increase ANY day of the week. hell the 04 and up were rated at 20 crank hp over the 97-03..and not because of a freeer flowing exhaust or intake..just the blower upgrade.

to say im not gonna make power over my gen 3 is very untrue..and with what mods i DO have is gonna help it shine even more

but thanks for reading, good day mate :th_thumb-up:
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If you kept the stock L67 TB and did nothing but a GenV swap you will see about 3-5whp on a stock GTP. Your biggest gain is coming from the N*/LQ4 setup and not the GenV itself.

The adiabatic efficiency of the GenV vs GenIII is almost identical... what you're improving is the VE, which is just the amount of air the blower moves at a given RPM/boost level.

I'd bet on a less than 10whp gain at your mod level from swapping everything you just swapped. Now if you were to get a cam/ic you're talking 15-20whp over the GenIII.
 
Also what are you paying for your dyno tune? I could get you 2 hours of dyno time with a tune (from someone who's tuned nearly 100 3.8's) for $200 if you wanted to make the trip to South Windsor CT.
 
SnowFlake said:
Also what are you paying for your dyno tune? I could get you 2 hours of dyno time with a tune (from someone who's tuned nearly 100 3.8's) for $200 if you wanted to make the trip to South Windsor CT.
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that sounds pretty badass to me..performance dyno in concord n.h charges atleast 500.

whos the tuner? your buddy or a actual pro tuner?
 
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