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Saturn, Pontiac owners reject GM

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Nearly two-thirds of Pontiac owners and almost three-fourths of Saturn drivers defected from General Motors Co. to other automakers when they bought new vehicles last year.

The Detroit automaker jettisoned Pontiac, Saturn and Hummer as part of its bankruptcy restructuring in 2009, but hoped to keep most of the buyers of those brands in the GM family.​

GM "knew by cutting these brands they were going to lose market share and they have," said analyst Jesse Toprak of online data firm TrueCar.com in Irvine, Calif.​

"But higher sales numbers doesn't always equal profits," said Toprak, adding that GM will be better off in the long run by making its four surviving brands more profitable.​

The Detroit automaker is wooing owners of its defunct brands in hopes they will transfer their loyalty to Chevy, Buick, GMC or Cadillac when they buy a new vehicle. There are about 3 million Pontiacs, Saturns and Hummers on U.S. roads.​

But GM faces a tough battle in the competitive automotive industry, where customers lured from competitors are called conquests — converts who are considered critical to helping automakers gain and preserve market share.​

While GM reports some success — Chevrolet, for example, is a top choice for many Pontiac and Saturn owners — a majority of those customers are defecting to rival brands, including Honda, Toyota and Nissan.​

In 2010, GM retained 36 percent of Pontiac owners who bought new vehicles, as well as 26 percent of Saturn and 39 percent from Hummer, according to California-based research firm J.D. Power & Associates.​

That's far below the 55 percent retention rate for GM's Chevrolet brand, as well as under the industry average of 48 percent.​

To keep these customers from straying, the automaker has worked to connect them with alternate GM dealers for their service needs and regularly keeps in touch with special promotions, said Julie Heisel, GM's director of customer lifecycle management.​

The automaker has rolled out one-year free maintenance offers and invited customers to test drive new GM cars and trucks.​

"The size of owner base is very important to us," Heisel said. "And we want to do everything possible to retain these owners."​

In March 2010, GM began offering Pontiac, Saturn and Hummer owners $1,000 off a new GM vehicle — a deal still in place today. GM extended the $1,000 offer to all current GM customers in January and February, hoping to keep them loyal.​

Analysts and investors, at the time, criticized GM for the move, which they viewed as falling back into the old habit of pushing sales numbers over profits. The discounts, they said, also contributed to flat North American earnings for the first quarter of this year, compared with the first three months of 2010.​

GM has since dropped many discounts to keep incentive spending in line with the rest of the industry.​

 


This article is pro-import propaganda. Noone can prove the facts given.

And yes I would rather have a Buick than most imports. Look at the 2012 Regal GS and get back to me.
 
I would much much MUCH rather buy an American brand vehicle then an Asian one. GM still has my business, do I agree with everything they did? Do I think they should have instead dumped Buick but kept Pontiact? Yes, but they were just trying to save there own ass. Im not going to hold it against them for trying to keep themselves afloat. So no worries GM, I still want a Camaro :th_jester:
 
If I purchase a new vehicle it will be a Mustang. GM doesn't really offer anything appealing to me. The Regal comes close, but I'm turned off due to it being a 4 cylinder.
 


If I buy a new car I would get a Used G8, if they come out with a new designed RWD Monte Carlo, I'll crawl back with my money and credit
 
Personally, I think they should have dropped Buick as well. Their luxury/sporty line is covered by Cadillac... why not sell lower end Cadillacs as Buicks? Granted, I'll never own a brand new vehicle but my next vehicle will probably be a GP. The only vehicle outside of the GP that GM owns that I care for is either a Chevy Silverado or Cadillac CTS-V. But still can't justify a Chevy Silverado when Ford is slamming huge gains with the 3.5 EcoBoost. And I really dislike the newly badged G8s.... looks like a sissys car without that crest on it.
 
I'm not too excited with much of GM's current offerings either, especially in the sub-35k range. That said, I don't plan on getting rid of the GP for quite a long time.
 
I'd still pick a Camaro or a Corvette over a mustang any day. I do own a Honda along with my GM cars, but that's because I got a good deal on it. I don't really want to support foreign production so when I went to buy a new car I bought a Chevy.
 


Saturn and Hummer deserved their fates, especially Hummer. It was very sad to see Pontiac go, but I don't think it should have been Buick or any other brand in its place. Pontiac is with Olds now, but i'm sure there are a ton of G6 coupes, Grand Prixs, G8s and Bonnevilles that are siting in old men's garages waiting for private sales down the road so I amd looking up about that.

If I had the money to buy a new car, $30,000-40,000, i'd still go with GM, I love everything they come out with, i'd take an Impala over a Charger anyday, but yes I agree, the new Mustangs and Challengers look so much better than the Camaro, hopefuly the next generation will be more promising.
 
These threads are dumb.

No matter what you do or say...GM isn't going to listen to the "public"

That's obvious after the past decade.
 


I would take a Camaro over a Mustang any day. Especially when the ZL1 comes out. Challengers a boat, and the Mustang is well.... a Mustang.
 
:confused::confused::confused::confused: Is this something you heard some hobo shout before hurling an empty bottle of MD20/20 into traffic while pissing himself?

The H1 was cool, then they jacked the price and came out with the H2, burns as much gas as a Suburban but is half as useful and the H3....

Some of the very last Saturns looked great, even the Ions but what I meant by "deserved" was that Saturn destroyed its image over the last decade so badly that it just couldn't be saved.

Olds and Pontiac were just a shame.
 
These threads are dumb.

No matter what you do or say...GM isn't going to listen to the "public"

That's obvious after the past decade.

decade? try like 30 years,

in GM america, gm tells you what to drive.

they should just import the intire hodlen line and fix it
 
Just because I bought a Pontiac or an American doesn't mean I am going to stay loyal to them my entire life.


Whether it's a Grand Prix, or a Camaro, a Camry or a 350Z, I am going to buy what I find to be the best fitting for me.
 
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