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4340 will handle more HP than can be achieved with a supercharged car. Yeah, F*ck you

Ok, soooo, maybe I slightly misunderstood that he was talking about a transmission part. But he's still a screw off. Trying to sell junk from his basement operation.
 


JGT010 said:
Ok, soooo, maybe I slightly misunderstood that he was talking about a transmission part. But he's still a screw off. Trying to sell junk from his basement operation.
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haha mannn zzp must be taking a turn for the worse... doing things out of the basement
 
Seriously. I wanna know WTF you were doing when that bastard splintered. ZZP or not.
Just cruising or a WOT down shift...that kinda thing. And it left the Pump shaft intact? Awesome carnage.
 
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If you can get the cash, i'd seriously opt for an Intense shaft. They seem to hold up better from what I hear.

I donno if I would go back to a stock shaft if I were you. I know you destroyed many of those as is. I really hate to see this happen to you man, it sucks....
 


In all fairness guys, zzp more than likely sells 10 times the number of input shafts as intense-racing. Their's bound to be failures.

That input shaft looks like it was broke because of Shock Loading. I'm guessing it either broke at a launch with slicks, or it snapped via a hard downshift.

For those of you that are planning on going balls to the wall, for $75 more its probably better to invest in the 300m input shaft. I know for my mods and future plans, the 4340 should be more than adequate.
 
when a company makes ridiculous claims as.. a supercharged car would never be able to break this shaft.. i'm pretty sure they should guarantee it. if it breaks.. at least send the guy a new one.
 
heres somthing also about the Intense shafts they are made by the same company that makes them for the gm racing team. but i have a zzp 300m.... i cant complain since i dont have it installed yet.
 
JGT010 said:
I bought my first supercharged car in Oct. of 2008. A 2007 Grand Prix GT. I was curious about the care and maintenance of the supercharger and what make and model the factory installed. Once I learned my car had an Eaton Gen V M90 I asked around and even talked with a few Eaton Reps and after market rebuilders. Heres the deal, there is no part, component that you can buy to out last, out perform an original Eaton Supercharger part. The reason is the clearences and function of their parts are very specific. In fact the only SC oil that can be used without worry is GM SC oil which is specified and reccomended by Eaton. Those pics don't reveal anything. How do I know that was an original part and the care and maintenance of the SC it came from. I'll stick with the advice of real engineers and mechanics instead of some after market scam artist.
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....sell your car please.
 
JJ91284 said:
In all fairness guys, zzp more than likely sells 10 times the number of input shafts as intense-racing. Their's bound to be failures.
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I kinda doubt this. The Intense shaft is a bit more popular than you think. Hell it was out years before ZZP came out with theres. IIRC Dynotech and even Trannyman themselves use Intense shafts for a reason.

Street Wolf ain't the only S/C car whos trashed one of these shafts, I've seen it before on the other board.
 


JJ91284 said:
That input shaft looks like it was broke because of Shock Loading. I'm guessing it either broke at a launch with slicks, or it snapped via a hard downshift.
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If it won't take the abuse of slicks, than why upgrade it? The whole point of getting the input shaft is not only to take the cars power level (if its a high HP/TQ car) and agressive shifting, but to run with slicks too. Thats why I have an input shaft, i'm running slicks.
 
chrisb said:
heres somthing also about the Intense shafts they are made by the same company that makes them for the gm racing team.
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I've heard that before. Like I said, the Intense shaft has been around years longer than ZZPs. Hell when Intense and ZZP were friends, all the ZZP cars ran Intense shafts amongst other parts...
 
Iron Indian said:
I've heard that before. Like I said, the Intense shaft has been around years longer than ZZPs. Hell when Intense and ZZP were friends, all the ZZP cars ran Intense shafts amongst other parts...
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You do realize Dynotech used zzp input shafts too right.

The 4340 from zzp is $100 cheaper than intense-racing input shafts. Why don't you compare the strength of the zzp 300m shaft and intense input shaft. The intense shaft is still $25 more than the zzp shaft. I'll admit it does suck that the shaft broke. If ZZP replaced the shaft, I would say thats pretty darn good of them. Most companies won't warranty aftermarket parts for this reason.

Even though intense has their input shafts made by the same company as GM racing does, the shafts are to totally different shafts. The GM Racing shaft looses the lock up feature of the torque converter, which allows them to have a thicker shaft and eleminate the seal groove.
 
Iron Indian said:
If it won't take the abuse of slicks, than why upgrade it? The whole point of getting the input shaft is not only to take the cars power level (if its a high HP/TQ car) and agressive shifting, but to run with slicks too. Thats why I have an input shaft, i'm running slicks.
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If you look at his sig, he's got some decent power but look at his trans setup

4000 stall and 3.69 gears. I don't know if he was launching, but that setup with some sticky tires and high shift pressure can and will do a number on parts.
 
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