Scimmia
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Hellfish is putting together a group buy on these on the Regal forum. Thought I would put the info up here for anyone interested. I'll try to keep this thread updated as Hellfish posts.
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Currently, there is no acceptable plug wire available for these cars.
I have found a solution that provides us what I believe is the best possible plug wire for a performance/street or race application, or even for a daily driver.
The wire I have chosen is a 10 mm wire with a 100% silicone jacket and a stainless steel (highly wound) winding. capable of withstanding 700*F sustained or 1200*F for 3 minutes.
Prices could be a bit less if the community moves towards the 8.5 mm wire, which is the same conductor, with a thinner silicone jacket which can withstand 600*F sustained or 1000*F for 3 minutes. Also, the 1 piece pure silicone jacket makes it possible to fit these in the factory wire separators with out damaging the conductor like would happen with other brands. But I feel the extra insulation necessary since the proximity of our plug wires to the supercharger.
The conductor itself will be able transmit significantly more energy than stock, require less coil voltage to fire the plug, and could conceivably out last your car. Because of their construction they are both STRONGER and MORE FLEXIBLE than other solutions.
The sets will be manufactured by the manufacture as the cost of the materials VS having them make the sets is so marginal that I determined it better to have them do it, so you don't need to worry yourself with anything in the regard of the quality of the assembly.
After consideration i would tentatively release the following prices:
20+ Orders, 130$
50+ Orders, 120$
(subject to change)
does not include wire separators or coolsox. but includes shipping.
You WILL need to provide a looming solution which keeps the wires separated and away from the engine as much as possible. (This is how ANY plug wire should be installed, but the manufacture was clear they did not want to see wires come back because they were improperly routed.) I recommend Coolsox boots in your installation especially in applications with headers/tubular manifolds or turbochargers, however the manufactures says they should be fine with out them.
Properly installed and maintained these would be the last plug wires you ever buy.
What I would like to do is start a list of 20. If it moves at a good pace, we will go to 50.
Once we reach the order amount, I will dispatch an email and people on the list will have 48 hours to send payment. People who did not get in on time will be notified. Those who do not pay with in 48 hours will be replaced with people who did not make the first batch. If people get bumped the "back up people" will have 24 hours to pay. I'll place the order with the company and will then receive the wires and then ship them to their final destination myself. If a significant amount of people do NOT pay (lets say, 20-25%), I will return peoples money to them, sans paypal fees if they pay with a credit card. I will have 2 addresses to use, one for payments with and one with out a CC. If only a few people fail to pay, I will either attempt to work out a deal with the manufacture or pay for the remainder of sets my self and then they will be available at a marked up price to whomever wants them.
The current list:
Regalgs.org:
Myself
LSchris
97 park ave
detroitdave
Scimmia
dmon901
1badregal
M_Dogg
PLEASE CONTACT ME WITH PM WITH YOUR EMAIL / SHIPPING INFO.
First 20 will receive 20 piece price, if we are able to reach 50, we will be able to get a slightly better price.
If everyone would commit to buying wire separators and coolsox I could also likely get those at volume a discount as well.
*edit: I can get coolsox in quantities of 16 or 33 sets, for an additional cost of ~27$ per set shipped (quantity of 6 coolsox). When I bought mine they were 36+tax & SH
The Big Reveal:
Yes, perhaps some have speculated on where/who these wires are coming from. We have worked with Magnecor to get a custom set of their R100 10 mm race ignition wires made for our application. These wires will deliver the most powerful spark, handle the most heat, and out last the life of the car with proper care. Picture below is our "beta" kit. Kits that ship will be numbered. As you can see they come with documentation outlining how to install the wires, including special instructions
Just to recap:
The R-100 wire is a 10 mm ignition cable. It's conductor is a 2.5mm diameter stainless steel winding around a strengthening substrate, then coated with a one piece 100% silicone jacket that provides the best thermal protection, flexibility and strength. The wire terminates at both ends with a stainless steel terminal. The plug boot is the highest temperature boot available.
This set has been designed to fit FWD 3800's. These will fit with any intercooler/blower. The plug boot is also fairly low profile and the highest temperature they make to accommodate most headers, no coolsox are necessary. These were designed to fit cars with the coils in the factory location, they have been given a reasonable amount of slack, but if you have moved your coils, please ask first as there are no returns for non-defective parts (and we can order you a custom set for a bit extra). In fact, unless you physically break your wires (which is not covered) you should never have a problem. Just be sure to read the documentation that comes withe them completely. If you do physically break a wire you can order individual replacements through us.
I have sourced wire separators which are acceptable (there aren't may 10 mm ones to chose from). If you would like to add them to your order please let me know (they are extra). However, I am still working with the manufacture on the price, but this should be wrapped up soon once we work out quantity. You can provide your own looming solution, there is a fairly clean method of using zip ties to create custom separators which you may find on the web. Wires should be neatly loomed and kept away from anything that may damage them. You don't want any plug wires to contact the engine directly.
We may also offer brackets to mount the separators at a premium, I have a contact that could stamp us some pieces to mount the wires too. These may take extra time so if we go ahead with them, I will offer them to people who already bought plug wires at a later date with no extra shipping, just the cost of what ever they turn out to be.
Pictured is our BETA set, the final set will be numbered.
These plug wires represent a fairly large investment of time and money of Chris and myself, and I take a lot of pride to release these and to say that they are Made in the USA, including any accessories we provide (separators, brackets).
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