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Why are people abandoning the W-Body?



Turbocharged400sbc said:
unlike you quitters.....some of us are working to make the W more viable

imagine if the 7/8ths chainset could handle power across its full face/link contact surfaces....talk about reliability increase....
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But see, the way I went I don't have to spend north of 7 grand to get it to last for 3 runs or wait for someone to design a chain. I can push 700 through the stock 6L80 (as long as it is tuned properly) and then when it blows up its about 2 grand worth of work and parts :-) but sounds like daves new input shaft is pretty strong, just need a chain that doesn't break and someone with deep pockets to manufacture it, but then your back to square one of the platform is dead so either the you do a low quantity run and they cost a couple Gs per set or you go mass production and pray people buy it.
 
ADrugDealer said:
How many miles? What did you do to it?! I am pusing ~550 whp and running into the mid to low 11s and its happy as a clam.

and why would I want a Gen 1 CTS-V lol, I'd rather have my supercharged G8 any day
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What is wrong with the LS6 or LS2? The GTO guys sure seem to love the LS2.
 
Slick2500 said:
What is wrong with the LS6 or LS2? The GTO guys sure seem to love the LS2.
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There's nothing wrong with the GTOs. The trunk space sucks. And the fools that put hi volume oil pumps on them end up messing the engines up due to oil starvation with their 5 quart pans. G8s have 9 quart pans and hi volume pumps due to the DoD crap. Needless to say, the oil changes are kinda pricey if you run synthetic. And the GTO computers are kinda flakey...
 
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jaydubb71 said:
There's nothing wrong with the GTOs. The trunk space sucks. And the fools that put hi volume oil pumps on them end up messing the engines up due to oil starvation with their 5 quart pans. G8s have 9 quart pans and hi volume pumps due to the DoD crap. Needless to say, the oil changes are kinda pricey if you run synthetic. And the computers are kinda flakey...
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The GTO suffers from the same problem that the G8 does, you get in a tiny fender bender and the car is totaled because there are no parts for them. I was asking what was wrong with the LS6 and LS2, the engines used in the first gen CTS-Vs.
 
There's nothing really wrong with them. The cylinder heads don't flow like the L76 and LS3 heads do. The problem is when they put hi volume pumps on them. Then the pan volume is an issue. Otherwise they are fine. LS2? Get LS3 style heads...
 
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Don't miss mines at all. I had three of them and one of my buddies have one and I drove it recently and it felt like a boat compared to my other car.

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jaydubb71 said:
There's nothing wrong with the GTOs. The trunk space sucks. And the fools that put hi volume oil pumps on them end up messing the engines up due to oil starvation with their 5 quart pans. G8s have 9 quart pans and hi volume pumps due to the DoD crap. Needless to say, the oil changes are kinda pricey if you run synthetic. And the GTO computers are kinda flakey...
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Slick2500 said:
The GTO suffers from the same problem that the G8 does, you get in a tiny fender bender and the car is totaled because there are no parts for them. I was asking what was wrong with the LS6 and LS2, the engines used in the first gen CTS-Vs.
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try finding parts for an 83/84 only Toyota cressida wagon

ADrugDealer said:
But see, the way I went I don't have to spend north of 7 grand to get it to last for 3 runs or wait for someone to design a chain. I can push 700 through the stock 6L80 (as long as it is tuned properly) and then when it blows up its about 2 grand worth of work and parts :-) but sounds like daves new input shaft is pretty strong, just need a chain that doesn't break and someone with deep pockets to manufacture it, but then your back to square one of the platform is dead so either the you do a low quantity run and they cost a couple Gs per set or you go mass production and pray people buy it.
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being an individual and not part of the herd does have its own costs....

thankfully im lucky that kevin has deep pockets and no cents

cant wait till we can put antique vehicle plates on it....
 
Turbocharged400sbc said:
try finding parts for an 83/84 only Toyota cressida wagon



being an individual and not part of the herd does have its own costs....

thankfully im lucky that kevin has deep pockets and no cents

cant wait till we can put antique vehicle plates on it....
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Comparing a 10-12 year old car to a 30+ year old car is not the same thing. Try finding a flywheel for a 1983 S-10 4x4 with the 2.8 v6 and 4 speed manual trans. Back in 2003 I had to order it from some random junkyard in Colorado, ended up costing me almost $200.
 
limited production is limited production

aren't OEM's only required to make a certain % of spare parts after all?

thankfully W's were mass produced and share parts bin stuff
 


I've owned a 97, 98, 00, and 01 GP. Each had some form of power adder, be it nitrous, supercharger, or turbo. By far the most fun was my turbo GTP, but after going through 3 transmissions with the last one being a "racing" trans I was done. I cut my loses and moved on to better platforms to begin with.

And thread bump, because I'm bored and the little box at the top when I logged back in after being "gone" for awhile annoyed the **** out of me so I posted.
 


I've had mine 13 years. Super easy to fix. As far as speed it has enough kick for me with the baby intercooler; rockers etc; etc; I'm not trying to outrun anybody with it. Once i get my Charger RT i'm not even thinking about ditching it. For what? Like i said paid for; runs great; easy to fix. Hell it has rust, but it ain't no big deal. The things been on the road for 16 years what do you expect.
 
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I've owned by 01 z/28 for almost 14 years. I did full exhaust, suspension, heads, cam, intake, brembos, etc.....

During the same time I had a 02 SE that was a workhorse. It finally rotted out last year and I picked up a $600 GTP no rust. I love these cars. Easy to work on, parts are cheap, and every junkyard has a couple. The GTP has more options than my wife's 2011 Malibu.
 
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