2000 GTP: Still Alive! New Trans?
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Booba5185
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No worries man, I'm gonna try to get it on there one way or another, just wondering if anyone else has tried it before and has any pointers, etc. I'm mainly trying to find some sort of metal insert that I can use to bolt the bracket to the tub\subframe. Once I have that, it should be a pretty easy install from there.
No worries man, I'm gonna try to get it on there one way or another, just wondering if anyone else has tried it before and has any pointers, etc. I'm mainly trying to find some sort of metal insert that I can use to bolt the bracket to the tub\subframe. Once I have that, it should be a pretty easy install from there.
Booba5185
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New rear struts, new Moog endlinks all around, Dorman Front Sway, I'm STILL hunting for a damned GMPP rear. Either way, car drives MUCH better and handles 100x better. Everything was stock with 230k, so yea...it was bad. All thats left now is new control arms and an alignment...and that DAMN GMPP rear bar. I'm about to break down and just buy one new from Jeg's for $55.99 with free shipping. I'm thinking of picking up another STB to put in the rear, but we'll see how cold it is tomorrow...
New rear struts, new Moog endlinks all around, Dorman Front Sway, I'm STILL hunting for a damned GMPP rear. Either way, car drives MUCH better and handles 100x better. Everything was stock with 230k, so yea...it was bad. All thats left now is new control arms and an alignment...and that DAMN GMPP rear bar. I'm about to break down and just buy one new from Jeg's for $55.99 with free shipping. I'm thinking of picking up another STB to put in the rear, but we'll see how cold it is tomorrow...
Booba5185
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Yep. They were gas charged anyways, the blue ones were fluid. I'm probably going to grab the rear (and maybe front) door panels off of that same car tomorrow when I go. Might grab something else if I feel like it, and depending on how cold it is tomorrow.
Yep. They were gas charged anyways, the blue ones were fluid. I'm probably going to grab the rear (and maybe front) door panels off of that same car tomorrow when I go. Might grab something else if I feel like it, and depending on how cold it is tomorrow.
Booba5185
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Completed the CS144 swap today, well almost did. I have it put back together to the point where I could do a test run, and it works great! I turned my rear defrost on, A\C on, and heated seat on high and my voltage didn't move. Still a solid 14.1v, so I'm a happy camper. Tomorrow I'll put it back together completely, and run some more tests on it. So far, I'm happy with the swap. Only speedbump I hit was the nipple adapters for the heater core hoses bolted on different, so I had to make some extensions for them and bend them a bit. My main digital camera battery died, so I only have one pic for now, more to come tomorrow:
Its a beast, thats for sure!
Completed the CS144 swap today, well almost did. I have it put back together to the point where I could do a test run, and it works great! I turned my rear defrost on, A\C on, and heated seat on high and my voltage didn't move. Still a solid 14.1v, so I'm a happy camper. Tomorrow I'll put it back together completely, and run some more tests on it. So far, I'm happy with the swap. Only speedbump I hit was the nipple adapters for the heater core hoses bolted on different, so I had to make some extensions for them and bend them a bit. My main digital camera battery died, so I only have one pic for now, more to come tomorrow:
Its a beast, thats for sure!
Booba5185
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Re: 2000 GTP...and so it begins...(LOTS of PICS)
Everything is back together and working GREAT! For some reason, my torque app is showing 13.7v when my multimeter shows 14.1 on every connection (Battery POS, Alt stud, distribution stud). The lights almost never dim, only when I have a song turned up louder than I'd every listen to it, lol. I also hardwired in my old Droid X with Torque installed, there's no service anymore so it's basically a mini-tablet. While I was up in Springfield the other day I picked up some new (brighter) 42mm LED bulbs for the map lights and I threw them in today as well. Interior is BRIGHT now, and all exactly the same color. Oh yea, the ripped Supercharger idler pulley went out today so it got replaced as well. I don't have a finished pic of the Alternator set up, I'll grab one in the morning, but here's a few other pics:
Gauges with Torque Pro, the Cell phone gets charged when the ignition is on, and goes to sleep when the power is lost:
LED Interior, no flash is used at all:
Here's some pics of the CS144 stuff, a before picture and a pic of the label on the CS144:
Just filed taxes today so some BIG changes are coming soon. It's nice to have the electrical system stronger than ever, because a lot of stereo\entertainment stuff is coming, along with complete exhaust (headers to tailpipe). I think the CS144 is one of the best things I have done to my car, I'm really surprised it's not a more popular upgrade.
Everything is back together and working GREAT! For some reason, my torque app is showing 13.7v when my multimeter shows 14.1 on every connection (Battery POS, Alt stud, distribution stud). The lights almost never dim, only when I have a song turned up louder than I'd every listen to it, lol. I also hardwired in my old Droid X with Torque installed, there's no service anymore so it's basically a mini-tablet. While I was up in Springfield the other day I picked up some new (brighter) 42mm LED bulbs for the map lights and I threw them in today as well. Interior is BRIGHT now, and all exactly the same color. Oh yea, the ripped Supercharger idler pulley went out today so it got replaced as well. I don't have a finished pic of the Alternator set up, I'll grab one in the morning, but here's a few other pics:
Gauges with Torque Pro, the Cell phone gets charged when the ignition is on, and goes to sleep when the power is lost:
LED Interior, no flash is used at all:
Here's some pics of the CS144 stuff, a before picture and a pic of the label on the CS144:
Just filed taxes today so some BIG changes are coming soon. It's nice to have the electrical system stronger than ever, because a lot of stereo\entertainment stuff is coming, along with complete exhaust (headers to tailpipe). I think the CS144 is one of the best things I have done to my car, I'm really surprised it's not a more popular upgrade.
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Booba5185
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OK I lied, now the CS144 swap is done. The belt I had on was too loose and squeaked a bit so I went and bought a smaller belt, a 93.985 inch Model K060935. I had a spare K060942 left over from my truck so I originally tried to fit that belt on, but it was a hair too long and made it sound like I had mice under my hood. While I was freezing my ass off, I snapped a few pics, but nothing fantastic. When I was at the JY I wasn't paying attention on the alternator bracket I bought had the wrong heater core nipples on them (90* instead of 180*), so I had to rig something up to get me by. Is it pretty? No. Does it work? Yep, no leaks. Anyways, you can kind of see what I did to fix it in the background. I also installed a sense wire, which did absolutely nothing that I noticed, and you can see what I used for a grounding location, and my stronger charge wire as well. When it warms up for longer than 1 day I'll clean everything up more. It was 65 degrees yesterday and is 13 today with a -5 windchill. W.T.F.
So far this CS144 thing is one of the most noticeable upgrades I've done to the car, everything has power, all the time.
OK I lied, now the CS144 swap is done. The belt I had on was too loose and squeaked a bit so I went and bought a smaller belt, a 93.985 inch Model K060935. I had a spare K060942 left over from my truck so I originally tried to fit that belt on, but it was a hair too long and made it sound like I had mice under my hood. While I was freezing my ass off, I snapped a few pics, but nothing fantastic. When I was at the JY I wasn't paying attention on the alternator bracket I bought had the wrong heater core nipples on them (90* instead of 180*), so I had to rig something up to get me by. Is it pretty? No. Does it work? Yep, no leaks. Anyways, you can kind of see what I did to fix it in the background. I also installed a sense wire, which did absolutely nothing that I noticed, and you can see what I used for a grounding location, and my stronger charge wire as well. When it warms up for longer than 1 day I'll clean everything up more. It was 65 degrees yesterday and is 13 today with a -5 windchill. W.T.F.
So far this CS144 thing is one of the most noticeable upgrades I've done to the car, everything has power, all the time.
Booba5185
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Re: 2000 GTP...and so it begins...(LOTS of PICS)
So now I have belt squeak that will not go away, after 3 belts. I just discovered that my idler pulley is making a bit of noise, and my water pump has VERY VERY little play in it, and is still damn near silent when I spin the pulley. I think I'm going to start by replacing the idler pulley and see if the squeak goes away. I don't think that it's the tensioner itself, because when I turn the A\C on and\or crank the steering wheel over all the way the squeak doesn't change. Anyone have any other input on the matter?
So now I have belt squeak that will not go away, after 3 belts. I just discovered that my idler pulley is making a bit of noise, and my water pump has VERY VERY little play in it, and is still damn near silent when I spin the pulley. I think I'm going to start by replacing the idler pulley and see if the squeak goes away. I don't think that it's the tensioner itself, because when I turn the A\C on and\or crank the steering wheel over all the way the squeak doesn't change. Anyone have any other input on the matter?
rodguezsciii
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my sc belt queal was terrible...had to replace tensioner assembly, all pulleys, and switch to a 1 size smaller gatorback to get rid of it....
my sc belt queal was terrible...had to replace tensioner assembly, all pulleys, and switch to a 1 size smaller gatorback to get rid of it....
Booba5185
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I've tried 3 different sizes, the smallest possible is on it now. I tried the next size smallest and it doesn't fit. The tensioner's pulley does make some pretty good noise, but it still rolls smooth...that could change with the belt's tension on it though.
I've tried 3 different sizes, the smallest possible is on it now. I tried the next size smallest and it doesn't fit. The tensioner's pulley does make some pretty good noise, but it still rolls smooth...that could change with the belt's tension on it though.
rodguezsciii
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the actual assembly should be tried next...when bought, it usually comes with the pulley as well...
the actual assembly should be tried next...when bought, it usually comes with the pulley as well...
Booba5185
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They do, but the squeaking doesn't get any worse with added belt-load (air conditioning on, power steering maxed, etc.), so I don't think it's the tensioner. I think I'll have Oreilly's order one just in case the pulley doesn't fix it.
They do, but the squeaking doesn't get any worse with added belt-load (air conditioning on, power steering maxed, etc.), so I don't think it's the tensioner. I think I'll have Oreilly's order one just in case the pulley doesn't fix it.
rodguezsciii
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I hear ya...I caught a great deal on a replacement at the time I dropped pulley sizes, so...either way, once the new assembly arrived, the difference in resistance was night and day....I needed little effort to put on/remove belt before, now it takes a decent amount of muscle to change out...
I hear ya...I caught a great deal on a replacement at the time I dropped pulley sizes, so...either way, once the new assembly arrived, the difference in resistance was night and day....I needed little effort to put on/remove belt before, now it takes a decent amount of muscle to change out...
Booba5185
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I've had a tensioner go bad on my truck, so I've felt a weak one before, and this one still has some good life in it I think. Who knows though, I could be wrong. It's just like the water pump play, it is BARELY enough to even see, but you can feel it. I think I compare it to a new one at the parts store and go from there. I'd rather not drain the coolant AGAIN...since I just did it last week.
I've had a tensioner go bad on my truck, so I've felt a weak one before, and this one still has some good life in it I think. Who knows though, I could be wrong. It's just like the water pump play, it is BARELY enough to even see, but you can feel it. I think I compare it to a new one at the parts store and go from there. I'd rather not drain the coolant AGAIN...since I just did it last week.