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zzp shift kit

willie14

willie14

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Does anyone have any pictures of how the shins go into the accumulator. All the writeups I've found are for the transgo and its a little different. I've got new springs that obviously didnt come with zzps kit but id like to see if and how anyone else placed there shims on the pistons before I just go and throw it in...

Now I know everyone thinks zzps kit Is crap but I work with huge accumulators for a living and we shim with UHMW poly similar to zzps shims because its easier on the piston shaft instead of stainless or aluminum. I feel if zzp offered more with the kit it would be better.....anywho, photos would be nice...
 


They do but they're just kinda crap. They say they got a shift kit write up with photos clearly in the directions, but when I emailed they're customer service that just kinda hack around the answer your looking for and don't tell you nothing useful.
 


You talkin about a photo of the accumulator after I shim the piston shafts? Lol only prob with that is id have to wait half the day to respond to my email
 
That's what I'd do, honestly. Sucks waiting, but there was a thread on here; guy needed a spring and didn't wait. I think it blew up because I haven't seen a "Need urgent help with rebuild!" thread yet.

You could post a picture here. Maybe someone can say if it looks right, but I used a different kit.
 
Yea I remember seeing that, but that was when he pulled the accumulator apart and the smaller spring was broke. I havnt done the kit yet but I imagine that happening is pretty rare
 
My final thought when I put my accumulator back together; "I wonder if I even need the shims and spacers with the spring placement I used (trans-go). Actually, if they're moot, they might just be adding wear to the guide/pin thing."

I've read that zzp used different material shims to ease the wear, but again, I don't have one. I read through the instructions and am now guessing that you don't have the accumulator removed yet. That's not a problem. Describing what I read, when you get out, the pots are marked with 1-2 & 2-3 on one side of the housing. Keeps the pistons positioned correctly, I didn't and had to use a pic. Remove the piston in 1-2 and place in the desired length shim per their suggestion; 3/4" shims in the pot under both pistons, then a third 3/4 on top of the piston in the marked pot 2-3. Finally, top the 1-2 piston with a 1/2" piece.

They say you can use whatever combo, but I'd start with that. If it's not what you're looking for, better get a pan with a drain plug.
 


The shims they use for their kit are the same material I use at work on our larger accumulators to ease transition of initial fluid pressure. Its alot easier on the housing and the shaft instead of using stainless
 
So I got the shift kit and custom springs installed in my trans. Took me about 3 1/2 hrs to do it because I had to drain the fluid into this small tiny pan I had so that took forever and the new pan I bought ended up being the wrong size so I had to clean up the old one and reinstall but I am super happy with the results. I ended up using springs from my work that we use for our hydraulic manifolds instead of using the stock springs so it didnt cost me anything else. I ended up matching the stocks to a set of beefier springs that were a slight bit stiffer under compression. First shift kit install, but I got say it was a success! She shifts on a dime now��
 
Yea I was gonna go out n buy one but I got too ancy and wanted to install. New springs & UHMW shims worked out great! Shoulda took pics tho. I dont see any writeups for zzps kit but I imagine that's because it doesn't come with nada. Crappy bout the pan I bought too. I guess ill put the right one on when I do another trans flush. What's the milage everyone's getting between trans flushes? Curious....
 


So I'm basicly lookin at 50-75 K miles between fluid changes...doesn't sound too bad but maybe refresh the fluid sooner then that or is I not good to constantly do trans fluid changes like your oil changes?
 
Check your fluid and change it if it isn't red.

I change my fluid several times per year; during the summer months I see a lot of 200*+ temps.
 
So I doesn't hurt it by constantly changing it then? I seen on one thread/ writeup where the guy said to always mix son of your old fluid in with thenew but I figure that since there's about what 4 quarts that doesnt come out thru the pan, you'd just have that to mix with the new....I know everyone's got their own preferences on how they do things...
 
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