Thread: Rotted Rocker Panels - Not the Typical Question

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 29
  1. #1 Rotted Rocker Panels - Not the Typical Question 
    SE Level Member KitRae's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    St. Catharines
    Posts
    126
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    OK. I know that these rot out like a Mo-Fo, but how long does this actually take? I bought the car just over a Year ago and it passed Safety when purchased. Now, they are completely rotted out and the Pass. Door hits the front fender when opening fully. My Question is this, should the Rockers have disintegrate this fast after a Safety, and how long until the Front Fender is perm. damaged by this.

    Also, I am on a VERY limited budget and can not get the Rockers Replaced by a professional. Thinking of having this DIY but want to use a Metal that will not rust and last. Going to spray the Turd out of it with Rocker Guard or Bed Liner.
    2002 Grand Prix GT 3.8L Naturally Aspirated
    - NGK Iridium Performance Spark Plugs
    - NGK 51031 Performance Spark Plug Wires
    - EPR Cross Drilled Performance Brakes & Ceramic Pads
    Reply With Quote  
     

  2. #2 Re: Rotted Rocker Panels - Not the Typical Question 
    Killa Bee Scottydoggs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    new jersey
    Posts
    39,919
    Thanks (Received)
    63
    Likes (Received)
    166
    Dislikes (Received)
    5
    open the pass side door, then lift it up from the outside edge ( by the out side door handle side) if the door lifts up your door hinges are dead.

    98 Buick Regal GS, F body brakes, Caddy STS wheels, tinted tails L36 bottom end, lightly ported heads, 1.95 roller rockers, headers, gen 5 N* 3.0 pulley, FSIC, 42 lb injectors, a BrandonHall rebuilt trans, DHP tuned and AEM water/Meth injection https://goo.gl/gpV5kW
    Reply With Quote  
     

  3. #3 Re: Rotted Rocker Panels - Not the Typical Question 
    GTX Level Member Elite6's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Cambridge, Ontario Canada
    Posts
    798
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    Probably shouldn't have passed safety if there are as bad as you say. 12-15 months is not enough time to do that much damage unless the car was sitting in a road salt bath. Front fender can get damaged quickly, leading to chipped paint & rust etc..
    2005 E55 - stock
    1999 GTP 2dr - 9" HAI | Headers | 1.84's | 3.4 | Ported SC|
    Reply With Quote  
     

  4. #4 Re: Rotted Rocker Panels - Not the Typical Question 
    SE Level Member KitRae's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    St. Catharines
    Posts
    126
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    I'll Post Pictures later of the Pass. side to show the damage. Dealership is saying that when they did the safety, they were not bad enough to warrant the replacement of them. I'll let you all be the judge to that once the pics are up.
    2002 Grand Prix GT 3.8L Naturally Aspirated
    - NGK Iridium Performance Spark Plugs
    - NGK 51031 Performance Spark Plug Wires
    - EPR Cross Drilled Performance Brakes & Ceramic Pads
    Reply With Quote  
     

  5. #5 Re: Rotted Rocker Panels - Not the Typical Question 
    SE Level Member KitRae's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    St. Catharines
    Posts
    126
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    Here are the Pictures. Just to let you know. A body shop said there was Zero Rocker Panels Left. I am going to go back to the dealership and ask how this passed the initial Safety before being sold to me.

    20130925_141408.jpg
    2002 Grand Prix GT 3.8L Naturally Aspirated
    - NGK Iridium Performance Spark Plugs
    - NGK 51031 Performance Spark Plug Wires
    - EPR Cross Drilled Performance Brakes & Ceramic Pads
    Reply With Quote  
     

  6. #6 Re: Rotted Rocker Panels - Not the Typical Question 
    SE Level Member KitRae's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    St. Catharines
    Posts
    126
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    Last edited by KitRae; 09-26-2013 at 11:33 AM. Reason: Added Photo Links
    2002 Grand Prix GT 3.8L Naturally Aspirated
    - NGK Iridium Performance Spark Plugs
    - NGK 51031 Performance Spark Plug Wires
    - EPR Cross Drilled Performance Brakes & Ceramic Pads
    Reply With Quote  
     

  7. #7 Re: Rotted Rocker Panels - Not the Typical Question 
    GTP Level Member gpse2000's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Fargo
    Posts
    582
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    There has to be some rockers left, there is some fab shop making them somewhere if someone knows where the link is
    2002 Denali Airaid MIT, Tint, 121k GARNET RED
    2006 GT S/C CAI, Plog, 3" DP, Flipped Mounts, DR STBs, SPO Grilles, SPO TIPS, Tint, Inlays, 120k BLEEN FOR SALE
    2000 SE 3.8 intake, dic swap, debadged, flipped mounts, rust mod 140k SILVERMIST SOLD
    Reply With Quote  
     

  8. #8 Re: Rotted Rocker Panels - Not the Typical Question 
    Killa Bee Scottydoggs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    new jersey
    Posts
    39,919
    Thanks (Received)
    63
    Likes (Received)
    166
    Dislikes (Received)
    5
    i dont think hes thinking of fixing it himself, or even paying out of his pocket to get it done.

    he seems a bit pissed that it passed its saftey inspection, and was told there minimal rust, a year later theres not much left under there. id be pissed off as well and do my best to be compensated, or have it repaired from the dealership who sold it to me.

    98 Buick Regal GS, F body brakes, Caddy STS wheels, tinted tails L36 bottom end, lightly ported heads, 1.95 roller rockers, headers, gen 5 N* 3.0 pulley, FSIC, 42 lb injectors, a BrandonHall rebuilt trans, DHP tuned and AEM water/Meth injection https://goo.gl/gpV5kW
    Reply With Quote  
     

  9. #9 Re: Rotted Rocker Panels - Not the Typical Question 
    SE Level Member KitRae's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    St. Catharines
    Posts
    126
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Scottydoggs View Post
    i dont think hes thinking of fixing it himself, or even paying out of his pocket to get it done.

    he seems a bit pissed that it passed its saftey inspection, and was told there minimal rust, a year later theres not much left under there. id be pissed off as well and do my best to be compensated, or have it repaired from the dealership who sold it to me.
    That is exactly what I am going to do. This is BS that they said that this happened over a 1 Year period. There is not much left there for the Inner or Outer Rockers. I have been told this by 2 Body Shops.
    2002 Grand Prix GT 3.8L Naturally Aspirated
    - NGK Iridium Performance Spark Plugs
    - NGK 51031 Performance Spark Plug Wires
    - EPR Cross Drilled Performance Brakes & Ceramic Pads
    Reply With Quote  
     

  10. #10 Re: Rotted Rocker Panels - Not the Typical Question 
    Donating Users 16MustangVet's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Sh1t hole Afghanistan Currently
    Posts
    5,418
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    Used cars 99% of the time are sold "as is" simply looking under the car likely would have avoided any surprises. Good luck a dealer isn't going to do jack.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  11. #11 Re: Rotted Rocker Panels - Not the Typical Question 
    Turbo is the way to go. REDCRAPGP's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Behind you...sike made you look Bish
    Posts
    16,085
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    1
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by 98GrandPrixIraqVet View Post
    Used cars 99% of the time are sold "as is" simply looking under the car likely would have avoided any surprises. Good luck a dealer isn't going to do jack.
    This.
    Squirrels are my engine. I need a Ford Regal
    04 Comp G.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  12. #12 Re: Rotted Rocker Panels - Not the Typical Question 
    SE Level Member KitRae's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    St. Catharines
    Posts
    126
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by 98GrandPrixIraqVet View Post
    Used cars 99% of the time are sold "as is" simply looking under the car likely would have avoided any surprises. Good luck a dealer isn't going to do jack.
    Not really. The last time that something like this happened to us, we Sued the Dealership and won the Money back that we used to purchase the Car. I am an Ex-Military Clerk, and I am able to find all loop holes and gain the evidence needed to win.
    2002 Grand Prix GT 3.8L Naturally Aspirated
    - NGK Iridium Performance Spark Plugs
    - NGK 51031 Performance Spark Plug Wires
    - EPR Cross Drilled Performance Brakes & Ceramic Pads
    Reply With Quote  
     

  13. #13 Re: Rotted Rocker Panels - Not the Typical Question 
    Donating Users 16MustangVet's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Sh1t hole Afghanistan Currently
    Posts
    5,418
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by KitRae View Post
    Not really. The last time that something like this happened to us, we Sued the Dealership and won the Money back that we used to purchase the Car. I am an Ex-Military Clerk, and I am able to find all loop holes and gain the evidence needed to win.
    Good luck and let me know how this turns out. BTW my sister works for on of the top 10 law firms in the country out of Minneapolis MN, Im still highly doubtful you will get anything. Being ex-military pencil pusher doesn't mean much. Also note #2 I am also military, currently in D.C. for a "homeland security mission" if I told you more Id have to find you and well...............................
    Reply With Quote  
     

  14. #14 Re: Rotted Rocker Panels - Not the Typical Question 
    GT Level Member douger's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    Fort Wayne
    Posts
    162
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by KitRae View Post
    Not really. The last time that something like this happened to us, we Sued the Dealership and won the Money back that we used to purchase the Car. I am an Ex-Military Clerk, and I am able to find all loop holes and gain the evidence needed to win.
    Most likely, you should start with the agency that oversees state inspections. Here in the People's Republic of Maryland, that'd be the state police.

    State inspection licenses here are fairly hard to get, the fines for sloppy inspections fairly steep, and the cost to a dealership that loses theirs is immense. You'd have a bit more ammo in your belt if you held a non compliance report in your hand.

    A rocker panel replacement is likely on the north side of a G note per side.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  15. #15 Re: Rotted Rocker Panels - Not the Typical Question 
    Turbo is the way to go. REDCRAPGP's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Behind you...sike made you look Bish
    Posts
    16,085
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    1
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    Yea you might want to reread the contract because I'm sure the vehicle is sold as is. GL getting your money back..keep us outdated.

    But this all could of been avoided had to looked underneath the car like 99% of the potential buyers I know.
    Squirrels are my engine. I need a Ford Regal
    04 Comp G.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  16. #16 Re: Rotted Rocker Panels - Not the Typical Question 
    GTX Level Member Elite6's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Cambridge, Ontario Canada
    Posts
    798
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by REDCOMPG View Post
    Yea you might want to reread the contract because I'm sure the vehicle is sold as is. GL getting your money back..keep us outdated.

    But this all could of been avoided had to looked underneath the car like 99% of the potential buyers I know.
    OP says he bought it certified not as is. No way it rusted that bad in a year.
    2005 E55 - stock
    1999 GTP 2dr - 9" HAI | Headers | 1.84's | 3.4 | Ported SC|
    Reply With Quote  
     

  17. #17 Re: Rotted Rocker Panels - Not the Typical Question 
    Donating Users 16MustangVet's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Sh1t hole Afghanistan Currently
    Posts
    5,418
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    Cancer no matter how small plus 1 years time = exponentially worse after that 1 year time period. Were you expecting the cancer to magically go away with out it being touched? Cmon people lets be real here this is negligence on the buyer plain and simple now the OP is acting surprised. BTW I googled the OP's location St. Catharines, yup that's in CANADA last I checked winter and you know all that white stuff that falls from the sky isn't really great for a car that ALREADY had cancer. Whining about the cancer might be a little bit more understandable if you live in Arizona!
    Reply With Quote  
     

  18. #18 Re: Rotted Rocker Panels - Not the Typical Question 
    SE Level Member KitRae's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    St. Catharines
    Posts
    126
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    Obviously, I knew about some Rocker Panel rust. But not to the extent that it was. They had a patch job on it that was only spot welded on one side. Nothing holding the patch to the car. And once that was removed as it was falling off anyways, that is when all the other stuff was disintegrated. That is more than a years worth of damage. Even for a Canadian Winter. Love it when Americans think they know a bit more that others. Atleast I don't put "VET" in my Name. I do not have to show off that I am a Vet. Just saying.
    2002 Grand Prix GT 3.8L Naturally Aspirated
    - NGK Iridium Performance Spark Plugs
    - NGK 51031 Performance Spark Plug Wires
    - EPR Cross Drilled Performance Brakes & Ceramic Pads
    Reply With Quote  
     

  19. #19 Re: Rotted Rocker Panels - Not the Typical Question 
    GTP Level Member indygrandprix's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Indianapolis
    Posts
    699
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    The rockers where 99% gone off my girlfriends GTP. so bad that the side skirts actually had fallen off both sides anyways. I went to the junkyard and cut a couple rocker panels off a rust free car and welded them on. Not a perfect job but the skirts cover all the defects. It only cost 50 bucks for both the rockers
    Quote Originally Posted by BillBoost37 View Post
    I went NA when a whore left -$300 in my bank account.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  20. #20 Re: Rotted Rocker Panels - Not the Typical Question 
    I live here. stealthee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    SWPA
    Posts
    8,782
    Thanks (Received)
    1
    Likes (Received)
    2
    Dislikes (Received)
    0
    If a patch panel was welded in place that is how it passed safety and that is 100% legal. You have no legal grounds to stand on about going after the dealer.


    2011 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS - DD mode
    1991 Mitsubishi 3000GT - Many mods to come
    Reply With Quote  
     

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. 1999 gtp coupe rocker panels rotted out?? Question on replacement parts
    By robbiegtp in forum General Tech Discussion
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 05-31-2012, 09:33 PM
  2. 99 se rocker panels?
    By Spudy in forum Visual/Body Modifications
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 04-11-2011, 01:08 PM
  3. rocker panels
    By The1AndOnlyBug in forum 5.3L V8 (LS4)
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 07-22-2009, 08:07 AM
  4. rocker panels
    By razoredge in forum Visual/Body Modifications
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 11-27-2008, 07:50 PM
Tags for this Thread

View Tag Cloud

Bookmarks
Bookmarks
Posting Permissions
  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •