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    Quote Originally Posted by dazedandconfused View Post
    Uh I raced a ss impala too and my race went pretty much like yours and I'm basically stock. Was the impala modded?
    hmm 240hp GTP vs 303hp Impala ... uhhh ok fine, for me that was before i got retuned

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    Quote Originally Posted by NR92 View Post
    hmm 240hp GTP vs 303hp Impala ... uhhh ok fine, for me that was before i got retuned
    Wow thanks for dynoing my car. I'm just telling you I raced a 06+ ss impala from a 30 roll and whoever got the jump held that lead till 100. I couldn't pull on him, he couldn't pull on me. That was even with my blower hot and a **** tranny. I know now I'd pull at least a car length on him to 100

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    Don't worry, that's crank bullsh1t.

    LS4 cars struggle to make 260~ FWHP...that's why a stock-ish blower car can hang or beat up on them.

    Their drivetrain loss is pretty decent...think close to 20%-ish.

    That and their intake side and peanut cam doesn't help anything either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dazedandconfused View Post
    Wow thanks for dynoing my car. I'm just telling you I raced a 06+ ss impala from a 30 roll and whoever got the jump held that lead till 100. I couldn't pull on him, he couldn't pull on me. That was even with my blower hot and a **** tranny. I know now I'd pull at least a car length on him to 100

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    I think when you wrote you were "basically stock" we thought you had basically stock HP output.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sudden View Post
    I think when you wrote you were "basically stock" we thought you had basically stock HP output.

    ding ding! winner, dazedandconfused i wasnt trying to be a dick but you said you were basically stock and you were sticking with cars that had quite a bit more hp then you, what did you expect

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    Quote Originally Posted by NR92 View Post
    ding ding! winner, dazedandconfused i wasnt trying to be a dick but you said you were basically stock and you were sticking with cars that had quite a bit more hp then you, what did you expect
    My car is stock. Stock pulley, stock **** tuning, only performance mod I have is a shift kit if you can even call that a "performance mod" I don't consider exhaust and intake to be a mod cuz they don't add power just "free" it up. I don't think my car makes more than 200hp to the tires if 200.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dazedandconfused View Post
    My car is stock. Stock pulley, stock **** tuning, only performance mod I have is a shift kit if you can even call that a "performance mod" I don't consider exhaust and intake to be a mod cuz they don't add power just "free" it up. I don't think my car makes more than 200hp to the tires if 200.

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    Lightly modded. Your guess at HP is probably close. Get a PCM I think you will like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sudden View Post
    Lightly modded. Your guess at HP is probably close. Get a PCM I think you will like it.
    I'm doing a p-log first then going down a pulley size. Then I'll need a pcm

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    Quote Originally Posted by dazedandconfused View Post
    I'm doing a p-log first then going down a pulley size. Then I'll need a pcm

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    I bet you'll wish you did the PCM before the pulley if you are scanning. I don't have a '97 but with my setup I still see a little KR once in a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sudden View Post
    I bet you'll wish you did the PCM before the pulley if you are scanning. I don't have a '97 but with my setup I still see a little KR once in a while.
    I do scan all the time. See a blip of kr occasionally on wot 1-2 shifts if its really hot. Other than that im pretty good.
    I have a question tho on pcm's. If I get a tuned Pcm before more mods how much to get it retuned?

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    what kind of tune are you looking to get? If it's just a canned tune you can keep modding with the same pcm. If it's a custom tune throw everything on your car and drive it to the tuner.
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    usually canned tunes are tuned according to your current mods.
    if you drop a pulley after you put a canned tune on, you are going to need a tune.
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    I'm talking price on additonal canned tunes after I buy my tuned pcm

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    youd have to talk to your tuner/vendor on that one
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    That's what I figured

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctracer View Post
    usually canned tunes are tuned according to your current mods.
    if you drop a pulley after you put a canned tune on, you are going to need a tune.
    Nope! A PCM will take you through all the basic mods. If you do a cam or have to do injectors, etc you will need a cutom tune. You can drop all the pulleys you want but you'll do a lot better with a custom tune.
    I agree with dsmuts on loading up than get a great tune.
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