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  1. #1 This car is the Devil!!!!! 
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    So I spend the entire afternoon replacing the supercharger and doing a compression check. Once you install one of these things with RTV,man they are a ***** to get out! I ended up using a machinist jack to press from the waterpump housing and cranking it up enough to see daylight under it then used a crowbar ease up on from the pass mount to the side of the blower and it came off easy after that. Took me a good hour to figure that one out. Everything went well until it went to installing the injectors, ended up cutting an upper Oring and spewed fuel out of the front. Ran to the parts store to get a set (why they come in a pack of 4 is beyond me) came back and replaced and checked for leaks. None found, but I did smell fuel and thought, meh it's still evaporating.

    So then I check all the connections and go ahead and try starting it. It cranks once and stops trying again just stalls the starter. So I figure all that cranking and the battery was low. So I put the charger to it. Every time I get 1 try, and I keep smelling gas check for leaks let the battery charge and try again. Same result. Let it charge check the cables and they are pretty hot. Jack the car up and the starter is a little warm. Check connections and they are solid., clean the terminals. I had an issue where a starter on my PA would drag but would start. Had it analyzed at Autozone and it was pulling so many amps it asked if we were starting a diesel. Changed it out and it dropped to 118'amps. So I figure maybe it's doing the same thing, but can't lose the fuel smell which seems to get heavier after multiple start attempts. Each time with about 10'minutes between tries.

    Still a little confused about the whole thing and since it's 90 with a heat index of 99 I'm not thinking that clearly I start checking relays and fuses. Then I notice that there is no pressure at the schrader valve. So I end up connecting the fuel pressure gauge I rigged up from an electric oil pressure sender and a gauge in place of the mechanical gauge. Every time I turn the key on the pressure rises then falls. So now I have a leaking injector and disconnect all the injector plugs to make sure that a driver is stuck on maybe due to not having anything connected while doing the compression test, long shot but just in case. Well I've got a leaker and ended up pulling the dipstick and it smells of fuel. So now I'll pull them in the morning and figure out where the leaker is. Then after that change the oil. I have 5 more injectors and the ironic thing is I have a freaking injector test stand sitting on the garage floor. It hasn't been used in 10 years so it needs checking out but that will come later.

    damn I'm tired of this.

    Good night, and happy freaking Father's Day!

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    That's an odd one. Usually most people can't cause more problems and hydrolock from swapping an SC.

    BTW. I used a 4 foot prybar when pulling the SC/IC on mine. Upside is..never had a vacuum leak.
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    One of the injectors is stuck open, that's why.
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    ive got a few spare stock l67 injectors laying around if you need one. came from a parts engine.

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    I get that one stuck open. I'm trying to determine how you pulled that off.
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    Thanks Scotty, I have 5 I pulled from an 06' so I should be able to get one of them working.

    bottom line is key on fuel pressure goes up then drops immediately, so it's dumping fuel for sure. Before it would hold pressure for hours. Pull the dipstick and smell fuel that's the only scenario that I can think of that would cause these problems.

    Bill I bent the crowbar so that's where the machinist jack came in. Then a crowbar and came off easy.

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    Bill,

    well, I thought that the injectors and rail were bored so I let them play in the sandbox while I was finishing up. On a side note it's not the first time I have seen an injector stick open after working fine. I've had it happen on the test stand. Usually on pintle style, but also on Multec as well just not as often.

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    Did you ever sort out your boost issue, or is that what you're still chasing? What was the result of comp test?
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    That's what I was chasing. Still suspected the driveshaft is slipping and not driving the coupler compression test was 180-190, Pics for proof and a video as well. No shenanigans, I'm too old for that ****.

    Cyl 1



    cyl3


    Cyl 5



    They may be backwards 5,3,1.

    Cyl 2



    Cyl 4


    Cyl 6



    Vid of one, I think 4




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    You didn't reinstall the supercharger using rtv again did you?
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    Yes, why?

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    Cause like you said it's a b1tch to get off if you ever have to again. The gasket is all you need unless you're running an IC. I've had mine off about 5 times, never used rtv to put it back on. Same with a buddy's Gen 3 we took off and painted a few weeks ago. No rtv, just new gasket.

    Now I can't remember if you had a vacuum leak or something you were chasing there. If they're other reasons why you used rtv, cool. Just not sure why you would use it on a stock setup no IC.
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    Yup it's a ***** getting the SC off if you RTV it then you have the additional cleanup of all the old RTV. Metal reuseable SC gasket ftw! Avoids all that.


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    Metal reusable? Man you guys are holding out! I have only seen the stock one. Next time it comes off its getting a ported intake, heads and IC. That's down the road so it'll be a while, just looking to get it running as it was stock for now.
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    Crsmi1,

    i thought I had a boost leak and ended up having a bad gasket, new ones were a week out and so I RTV'd it back on.
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    It's one of those 06-08 changes. 04-05 guys got screwed from the start and got the crappy cardboard gaskets that aren't reusable.


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    Quote Originally Posted by J57ltr View Post
    Crsmi1,

    i thought I had a boost leak and ended up having a bad gasket, new ones were a week out and so I RTV'd it back on.
    That Makes sense. I would have probably done the same thing there. Good luck getting it back running today bud.
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    Thanks man.


    Ok so now I know to get an 06' up gasket if I decide to go back. I still need to remove the snout and see what's going on with the old one, but going to take care of the injector issue now. Wife just got back so off of kid duty.

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    If crushed rubber is your idea of reusable.. go at it. Personally after 100 miles and less than a week I did reuse. But much beyond that, I don't take the chance. I'd rather RTV than expect a crushed agasket is reusable.
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    There she blows! We have a leaker.



    Now to clean up a spare.

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