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  1. #1 CAI Myths Busted 
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    No matter what forums i've gone to one of the first mods they suggest is a CAI. Either in your fender or in a heat shielded box. Well i'm here to tell you, a CAI will NOT add horsepower. ok maybe that's a little of an overstatement.

    The theory of a CAI adding horse power is usually based on two statements
    A. if the motor can get air in faster it can get air our faster.
    B. Colder air is denser air.

    Now to discuss both these accusations.

    A. Your motor in essence is a vacuum. sucks air in pushes air out. simple, but it really doesn't matter how much air you can suck in if it has no place to go. On most factory cars the exhaust is pretty restrictive due to emissions. so no matter how open your intake is you will only be able to push a certain amount of air through your motor with out also opening up your exhaust. think of it as putting your hand over the air release on some shop vacs. as they suck in they collect the dirt and push the air out. Now put your hand on the intake part of the vacuum and then cover the exhaust port of the vacuum you'll notice a huge loss of intake flow. no matter how big or open that intake hose is. the phrase (more air = more power) does come into play here. but how much more air do you think is coming in? if you have a boost vacuum gauge this will make more sence. let your car idle.. read the vacuum. say 23lbs of vacuum now take your intake hose 100% off and check again. itll most likely be 23lbs of vacuum. no matter how open your intake is it will always have that peak vacuum it can hit, now with forced induction (turbo, supercharger) the air is forced into the motor causing your vacuum pressure to increase. say at 3000 rpms your vacuum with out forced induction is 29lbs. now say you run 10lbs of boost. in reality your engine now has 39lbs of vacuum it can use to intake and push out causing more power.

    B. Cold air is denser air. well this statement has truth to it. but in this context, how much good will denser air be if your not also getting the flow of fuel you need. the typical engine ecm can compensate up to a 7% change in air density and compensate by either adding or taking more fuel. thats why you get different gas milage at different altitudes.. if the density of the air you suck in through your intake is more of less than that 7% it is diong no good (without a pcm tune)

    all in all, what i am saying is, CAI's may sound cool. but they really aren't worth your money adding until you can modify either the pcm or your exhaust system.

    short little rant. (cant comment in the rant section yet)
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    Um yeah a lot of know this, all of the cold air intake kits are worthless for this platform. If you want a different intake than stock just make your own for $30-$40 bucks.
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    Superchargers take away horsepower
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    You missed the entire point of this didnt you? Its not whether it cost 2000$ or 5$ it wont make you go any faster. It will be a mod that is only asthetic. No function. Only form.
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    vacuum readings aren't measured in pounds. and this post is just full of holes in your logic. plus you aren't backing this up with any fact just a lot of whining (PUN intended)
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    @camo. What do you think psi means? Pounds per square inch. Vacuum is measured in pounds. But bravo for sounding like a retard. Look up CAI dyno tests. The best gain was. .3 of a horsepower.
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    I could find dyno's saying they've increased 50hp too. I can't tell if you are serious though cause the trolling possibilities here are endless.
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    Cold Air Intakes Mythbusted - YouTube since your obviously not smart enough to.do it yourself
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    yes youtube is where I go for 100% undeniable factual information, and I've seen that video, not once did they tune a car for anything aftermarket either. I could easily make a video and make up my own numbers claiming 50whp increase with a cotton filter. my oh my you have a lot to learn
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    Exactly they didnt tune it. THAT IS THE POINT!!! your CAI will do nothing by itself. Now you are getting the point. And just and fyi that gtr is tuned. Just not to a CAI.
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    highly highly debatable person who literally just joined a forum to attempt to prove a point that can be blown out of the water like a life raft taking on an aircraft carrier
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    Aircraft carriers cant shoot down. Life raft would win. But +1 for the ****ty metaphor.
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    The short HAI intake works great on GP's. It has a 1-2 HP gain over the CAI. I can't find the thread, but a member went and did dyno testing and made a nice thread on it.
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    And obviously you have never heard of Knock Retard.
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    Superchargers take away horsepower
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    Yeah......about that........I just literally don't know what to say to that. Goodnight noob
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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasTanker19kilo20 View Post
    The short HAI intake works great on GP's. It has a 1-2 HP gain over the CAI. I can't find the thread, but a member went and did dyno testing and made a nice thread on it.
    http://www.grandprixforums.net/dyno-...ake-33225.html
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    Noob? Ha noob at what?
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